Quote: "Yeah but you can just patch a game and there you go right back to live, they are not doing anything about that."
Pirated versions perhaps, but the new security features prevent any console that is modified in some fashion and disables the network support to prevent patching. The gamertag that is used on the console also becomes blacklisted from Live.
@Jeku - We discussed this earlier tonight (or well today for me), as I mentioned to you. There was no indication given to us that this wasn't the update, the UK/European servers have been fully updated; however given the Handshake Server is the one that determins the current updates required for XBL it could be that they will not be releasing it post-update/maintainance.
I've yet to get through to anyone other than the guys I've been working with who were as equally surprised as I was at the announcement made by Major Nelson (and the XBLT). We were aware that they had not yet finished some features, however none of these features will be available for Europeans anyway... it would be quite irritating that they hold back this update simply due to that.
Still I'll find out more later today.
We've tried to run a bit of damage control however, and well a certain notice has disappeared from every inbox.
(atleast within the UK, god knows for anywhere else)
Also despite the handshake server now being up and running, as well as the account server access; Xbox Live itself remains down.
Should find out shortly as to why this is, cause again no one actually knows what the hell the Redmond boys are up to.
Well hopefully more will be known within the next few hours.
Quote: "Actually, now it's £130, at the point at which it's seriously tempting. Should it drop even a pence below £100, damnit, I'll draw out a loan with my little brother."
In GAME that includes a title as well, as well as the 256MB Memory Unit and 5 Xbox Live Arcade games on DVD.
Quote: "don't ever buy an arcade version. They are missing most of the abilities that make the Xbox cool. No HD support, No HDD (which is important, you can only get a few saves on a memory card) and HDDs are quite expensive. and, I don't think they have networking. not sure about that last one though. "
ALL Xbox variations come with a HDMI Port in the back, on the Arcade and Premium they're located underneath the AV. There is no AV on the Elite however, so if you get that console make sure you have a HDMI Compatible TV.
£130 Arcade 256MB Memory Unit
£160 Premium 60GB Hard Disk Drive
£220 Elite 120GB Hard Disk Drive
All consoles come with a Wireless Controller, and Wired Headset now
£30 20GB HDD
£TBA 60GB HDD
£100 120GB HDD
Yes, these are quite expensive still; but the flipside is the Premiums will be 60GB as standard and cost the same as the Premium with 20GB. So it's a no-brainer, especially as the 20GB + Arcade = Premium.
Still you don't actually NEED a HDD to play games. Updates will happen each time a new title is put in, and the majority of games DLC isn't a requirement. In-fact the only game DLC is a requirement is Halo 3 (if you want to play online) and the only game that requires the HDD to even play is Final Fantasy XI.
Out of a library of over 300 titles now, that isn't bad tbh
Oh and btw; this seems to confuse many who buy 360 games but "Requires HD" doesn't mean you must have a HDTV, it means Hard Disk. Although the majority of game that say that were made prior to the larger memory cards (like Forza Motorsport 2)
