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Lukas W
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Posted: 30th Sep 2008 22:09
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Hello!

I haven't played xbox in a long time now so I decided to play it again today.
After the game started and after the intro screen(s) I heard a loud electric static sound coming from the speakers, and the xbox froze.

I thought "WTF!" and restarted the crappy console only to be greeted by three red lights flashing.

That sucked. But in a way I was just waiting for it to happen, as I've experienced lots of failures which indicates a hardware failure.

For example: Discs are scratched, discs are unreadable, games freeze all of a sudden, games which uses a real time loading system (ie. Skate) fail to load the next area so it's just a "end of the world" kind of thing.

Anyway, I'll talk to EBGames (or gamestop) and see what they have to say about this.
I bought it used from ebgames little less than a year ago so hopefully the warranty is still in effect.

Who else had this kind of fail thrown in their face?

PS: waiting 10 minutes or so, and the xbox works again. wtf is up with that? It will probably fail any time soon anyway, so I'll pretend I didn't see this.

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RedneckRambo
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Posted: 30th Sep 2008 23:42
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Quote: "Who else had this kind of fail thrown in their face?"

I've had my 360 break twice, the original xbox break twice, and my computer is in the process of breaking.

Anyways, what happened to you has happened a lot. A lot of my buddies got the 3 red lights once and never got it again. You could be one of the lucky ones where it doesn't happen again.


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mamaji4
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Posted: 30th Sep 2008 23:58
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That's Billy boy's idea. If all the X-Boxes go broke, we go broke buying new ones and he gets richer.
We have to nip this conspiracy in the bud and only buy Wiis.
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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 00:04
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You kidding? The Wii is, from my experience, just as unreliable. I've seen crashes with the disc drive, graphical messups, the Wii Menu likes to corrupt and sometimes when a Cube controller is connected/disconnected it just freezes.

I swear it's a dud but Nintendo don't care, unlike M$ who will begrudgingly repair your 360 for free for three years after purchase.

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Little Bill
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 00:04
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Mine went 2 days ago. Major suckage.


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Deathead
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 00:27
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It isn't Xbox which breaks down only, I seen PS3 die on people, I seen a wii and a ps3 get a disc stuck, I've seen a wii be unresponsive even though it was close to the sensor bar.


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David R
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 01:04
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Quote: "You kidding? The Wii is, from my experience, just as unreliable. "


Your Wii is unreliable. Obviously, 1 in every [N] Wiis will be a dud. But that's not enough to make a blanket statement like the above. Whereas the death rate of 360s is high enough (and common enough) to be branded as unreliable, the Wii doesn't really fit in either of these categories (I'm not saying it's 100% reliable - of course there are duds. But it is not an 'extreme' / widespread problem)


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Sasuke
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 01:12
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My 360 has broke (i've never seen red rings of death yet) more times than my computer which is once, I protect my baby from constant harm other than old age. On the other hand every Playstation I owned never broke, same for nintendo. Hmm, interesting...

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 01:15
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My point is that if your Wii is one of the unreliable few, Nintendo don't care and won't fix it. Same with the DS Lite; mine broke, and they just didn't give a damn. At least M$ can put it right.

They've lost a customer for next gen.

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Satchmo
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 01:19
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Quote: "My point is that if your Wii is one of the unreliable few, Nintendo don't care and won't fix it. Same with the DS Lite; mine broke, and they just didn't give a damn. At least M$ can put it right.

They've lost a customer for next gen."


Actually, they'll fix it for free, about three months after I got my wii, it had troubles reading disks, so I sent it in, and they repaired it. Didn't cost me a dime.

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Cliff Mellangard 3DEGS
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 01:28 Edited at: 1st Oct 2008 01:38
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search the web for wiis breaking down and that aint much.
and then search for problems with the xbox 360
the problem with the xbox is that they realy late in development , put in wireless controllers and a lot of other stuff.
that makes the xbox fail very often.
at least wath the so called hardware know hows tells me
a link

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=26580495

a sneak peek of the news in the link----------------------

Problems with quality control continued to plague the system, so much so that Microsoft actually ceased production of the Xbox 360 in 2007 between January and June to find and address the issue, according to the report. The production stoppage was also due to a surplus of systems at retailers from the prior holiday season, a fact which led to accusations of channel-stuffing on Microsoft's part.

As for what the ultimate culprit for the faulty console was, Takahashi reports it was a combination of factors. The ATI graphics chip had overheating issues, solder joints were prone to failure, and assembly and memory issues were widespread.

"The video game industry has never seen a consumer problem as bad as the 'red rings of death' and the size of the $1.15 billion charge stands as one of the biggest liability glitches in consumer electronics history," Takahashi wrote. "How Microsoft handled the flaw may provide a lesson for all modern electronics companies; that is, if you are going to promote the hell out of something, it better work the way you say it does, and you better have a strong customer support and engineering debugging team to back it up."

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but iam still thinking of buying one as my brother have had his one repaired 2 times. (red eye )
and it only took about 2 weeks each time to get repaired.
and i hope they have fixed the glitches by now.
cheers
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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 01:32 Edited at: 1st Oct 2008 01:35
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Perhaps Nintendo of America actually respond to emails and telephone calls unlike Nintendo of Europe who ignore your emails and their phone number results in an "engaged" message? I modded a new case onto my Lite after three emails and four calls went unanswered, and it broke in exactly the same way, signifying what a rubbish design it is. (it doesn't take an engineer to realise that the rachet is only in the right hinge which is SCREWED using self tapping screws into the body, causing cracks at the factory!) Not much I can do about the Wii though. They do not fix it for free here; there's a minimum service charge because they like ripping their customers off. Therefore, I am no longer a customer.

If you're stupid enough to design a hinge like that, I dread to think what other problems will arise with time.

I don't abuse my stuff; my PS2 somehow still works as long as you don't put a memory card in it (freezes), my GBA, GBC and GBP still work ten years down the road. It's clear Nintendo have lost their way and are trying too hard.

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Cliff Mellangard 3DEGS
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 01:36 Edited at: 1st Oct 2008 01:41
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its really bad to hear that they have treated you that way
i havent bin neaded to fix mine yet as it have worked perfectly since i bought it
maybe nintendo of sweden is better to its customers ?

and please dont let this get to be an ,my console is better then yours thread
the 360 is a lovely machine when it works
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Haven Studios
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 02:18 Edited at: 1st Oct 2008 02:25
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Quote: "I bought it used from ebgames"


Thats never a good idea the used ones like 80% of the time have the old motherboards the new ones have better ones that fix the three ring issue and addresses some overheating problems

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Satchmo
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 02:22 Edited at: 1st Oct 2008 02:22
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Quote: " my PS2 somehow still works as long as you don't put a memory card in it (freezes)"


I don't consider that working. That's like making a game and saying, it works so long as you don't try to press any buttons.

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Toasty Fresh
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 02:56
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It seems that RRoD is part of the life of each Xbox. My original one got it, my 360 got it, and my friend got it on his original as well.

Can I come over to your house and play with your Wii?

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Robert F
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My Xbox 360 has only broken once and that's because I dropped it in my driveway. Then it didn't break for another 2 months.

There was no RROD though. Just stopped working.

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Darth Vader
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 03:30
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Nintendo of America are good, but here in Australia I had to pay $50 for my DS lite hinge to be fixed!

But then again I've had my Wii since launch (Almost. Off by about 2 months) and I've never had any problems with it!

I think that we should all go back to the SNES! That console will never die!


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Slayer93
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That sucks about all those consoles breaking, I actually have all three next-gen consoles and not one has broken on me yet (but my Xbox 360 scratched my Oblivion disk so now I get those disk errors). Now that I have said this watch me get the Red Rings of Death.

Quote: "I think that we should all go back to the SNES! That console will never die!"


Tell me about it, I still have one of those and it still works


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SikaSina Games
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2008 19:24
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THe 360 has a sensitive heat and error detection system. If it detects the slightest error, it will freeze and/or show the notice of a failure. All you need to do then is restart the console. If the 'RRoD' continues, remove all hardware from their ports (network adapter, memory unit, etc.). After that, try it. If it doesn't work then, unplug your 360 and re-connect it after 10 seconds. If it doesn't work then, get it repaired. Also, mnake sure to check the power core whilst playing, if it is red, it is overheating. Symbols here:

Rings:
|:Graphics problem

||:TV cable is not recognized and/or the wrong AV cables are connected to the TV.

|||: Hardware failure. Attempt to remove most appliances from the 360 and restart.

Power Core:
Orange: Standby
Green: Power On
Red: Overheating

Network Adapter:
Orange: Ready for connection
Green: Connected to a network service
Red: Network has disabled the connection and/or the network adapter has overheated/suffered a hardware failure.

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Lukas W
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2008 21:30
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Wow I didn't think this would turn into a debate about which console lasts longer. But anyway while were at it, my five year old PS2 hasn't had a single problem! I still play it (once a week or so).

And as a side note, I am considering scrapping my xbox and get a 360 Elite or something. I've heard it's a tad bit quieter and cooler. But I don't know.
Also the xbox is very cheap now. I bought mine used (and traded a few ps2 games) for the same price as the 360 arcade costs today (I have the 360pro).

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Mahoney
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Quote: "Quote: "I think that we should all go back to the SNES! That console will never die!"

Tell me about it, I still have one of those and it still works"


Same here with the NES.

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Alucard94
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2008 23:46
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I still have a piece of cheese and heck, it still works.
My first xbox broke (RROD) although my 360 has yet to, although I'm sure it will. Eventually.


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david w
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2008 05:45
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My first xbox 360 got the RROD and they repaired it and it still works fine. I bought a new xbox 360 cause they have hdmi now. It just broke on me this week. RROD.

My fried got RROD on his and bought an arcade version and it works good. We re-did the heat sinks on his first 360 and its been working great since. X-clips suck. What a bad bad design. WTF were they thinking????

My other friend has gotten RROD and sent it back and they repaired it and just last month the reparied xbox 360 got RROD again.

Thats 3 people that I know who have gotten RROD on older and newer/newer/reparied xbox 360's......I know they will fix them, but come on seriously.....This is kinda lame.
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