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Geek Culture / How much do you charge for website design?

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Izzy545
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 05:58
Just curious, I have a client that wants to pay me to design a website for his startup business. He say's he'll pay me well, but I don't know what I should charge.

Any tips on what sort of pricing website designers charge, I'll also be doing some graphic design for them...

Any help is very much appreciated.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 06:41
Depends on how much work you have to put in on it / your skill level and quality of work.

I do small personal websites for $250 but at that price I'm pretty much ripping myself off for the time invested in doing all the programming and graphics myself.

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Izzy545
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 07:07
It's going to be an online based business, so I'll be writing the systems that handle the orders, and probably be doing database work and such, so it's a fairly complex job.

However I'm not all that experienced.

Thanks for the input!

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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 07:55
I would charge an hourly rate on a project of that size, as you may undervalue your work tremendously if you just take a lump payment. With those kinds of projects the client may want to keep expanding it over a long period of time, so make sure you're adequately covered if this goes on for months.

As for a rate, I wouldn't do anything for under $15/hr if you're not that experienced. I've seen people do it for as low as $10. I just came across a job offer in my area for $15/hr as a junior web programmer.

As for design, you should also get reiumbursed for that.


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I was offering my services for $12/hour not too long ago.

I have to ask it, because it's bothering me. But you do know how to do everything he's asking for right? I'd hate to hear about you getting owned by some business who didn't get what they expected

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Izzy545
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 09:38
I'm meeting with him tomorrow to see exactly what he needs the website to do, however I'm pretty confident I can do most everything, and I learn very quickly, so the bits I don't know how to do I can figure out.

I've done a fair bit of MySQL and PHP scripting before, I know my CSS and HTML, even Flash and Java to a pretty good extent so I think at the very least I have a solid grounding in what he's looking for.

Between $12 and $15 sounds reasonable... I guess I really should wait until I see exactly how complicated it's going to be first.

bitJericho
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 10:47 Edited at: 1st Oct 2008 11:10
Quote: "As for a rate, I wouldn't do anything for under $15/hr if you're not that experienced. I've seen people do it for as low as $10. I just came across a job offer in my area for $15/hr as a junior web programmer."


Between 12 and 15 is a complete ripoff! That's half of what you should charge for freelance work, unless he's hiring you as an employee and paying your social security, (in the states). In the states, businesses have to pay an equal amount of social security as you pay in yourself. They're not allowed to put this on your paycheck statement, so you're actually making boatloads more than you realize in a regular job.

As a free lancer, half of that money goes to taxes, so you're actually making just over minimum wage. No, you should charge 40 bucks an hour inexperienced. More once you have a project or two under your belt.

Trust me, if you charge 15 bucks, he's going to laugh at you, or take advantage of you. People don't believe me when I say it, but charge 40! He'll take it if he's got any kind of money to invest in this project, and you'll be happy knowing you're not getting burger flipping wages.

I gave the same advice to drewg (i think is his tgc name), and he's made good money and his customer that he was talking to me about was quite happy to pay it. If the guy hiring you can't afford 40 an hour, he can't afford a web designer.

Your other option, if he can't afford it up front, is profit sharing. It's perfectly acceptable if you believe he'll make money and you like his business sense. For farawayhost, this is what im doing with my partner, (since I don't have the few thousand dollars it would cost to do what he does). If you'd like to talk more in detail about it, I'd be happy to talk with you over chat. We can talk on google chat or msn chat


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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 12:38
UK fees are around £25/hour

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I recommend listening to the Boagworld podcast for web business views and client management..

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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 14:27
I charge £20 an hour ($40) if its metered work.

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I charge a Quart of Ale and a bag of pork scratchings per page.

Omega gamer 89
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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 17:43

I've been wondering the same thing lately. I have an opportunity to redesign a site for a small, local embroidery company, and I was thinking of charging about $14 an hour, mainly because she already has all the media, she just the needs the site re-done because it is total crap right now.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 19:16
Quote: "I was thinking of charging about $14 an hour, mainly because she already has all the media"


Whether the media is available or not is irrelevant if you are charging an hourly rate. Time is time, however it is spent.

Omega gamer 89
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True, but what I meant was that I wouldn't have to go out and find it all, and spend time preparing it. Good point, though.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2008 19:37
I think its important to mention that if the site has commercial value, such as value for advertising or the capability to purchase items from it, then you need to make sure you are getting a price that reflects the value of the product you will deliver. More to the point, if he can use it to make more money then you need to charge more money.

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Posted: 2nd Oct 2008 00:52
Quote: "I think its important to mention that if the site has commercial value, such as value for advertising or the capability to purchase items from it, then you need to make sure you are getting a price that reflects the value of the product you will deliver. More to the point, if he can use it to make more money then you need to charge more money"


Hmmm that doesn't work in the real world. If you are a contractor, it's none of your business how much profit the owner of the site is making, or how much business it does. If you agree to make a website for his popular store or his church, it shouldn't make a difference in price per hour. You will inevitably make more from a commercial site as you will have to put in proper security measures though.


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Posted: 2nd Oct 2008 05:28
and heck, if nothing else, you've got something to put on your resume


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