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Geek Culture / Problem with HDD, (Samsung SP2514N)

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MSon
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Posted: 12th Oct 2008 16:02
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I have a 250GB Samsung SP2514N, This use to be my main drive, (Partitioned into 2), but after a recent rebuild on my PC, i have a Different HDD for windows, and have tried to connected my old 250GB HDD as slave, but it is failing to let me access it, I can access it in 32GB Mode, But when i remove all the jumpers, windows freezes half way through loading, Will i need additional drivers to use the full 250GB as slave?

I Hope someone can help me with this all all my old work in on this second HDD

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Sasuke
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Posted: 12th Oct 2008 18:26 Edited at: 12th Oct 2008 18:33
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Don't know the technical term, but on the back of the HDD there two rows of prongs I believe, there should also be a two phong connector either running vertically across two prongs or horizontally. Now if I remember correctly you need to change this for slave drives but I can't remember if its vertical or horizontal, going to do a quick search. Back in a sec...

Edit: the term was Jumpers wasn't it, silly me and I'm a tech geek, btw if its a sata drive then you don't need to worry about this, some sata drive have jumpers but there for controlling the speed of the drive.

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If it boots at all then he's probably got the slave/master settings correct.

Are you sure windows is booting off the main partition and not on your 250gig drive?


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James H
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Presummably an IDE drive? The prongs are pins and the two "phong/prong" connector is a jumper.
Might be that its loading in the wrong OS from the 250gig drive (if the Os still exists on it)- would explain the freeze as its loading the wrong system drivers. If this is IDE there should be a sticker on the drive detailing the jumper modes - I have sometimes had to set the jumper mode to force slave present to get full/nearly full capacity working.
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Posted: 12th Oct 2008 18:43 Edited at: 12th Oct 2008 18:51
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One sec if this drive was setup in your old setup, did you format it in FAT32 by any chance, cause XP only allows 32GB partitions under FAT32.

Also don't samsung drives have markings where the jumper pins are, MA/SL/CS. Try CS if it does.

Edit: sorry James H, just noticed your post.

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Posted: 12th Oct 2008 20:41
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Sorry for delay in posting, still no luck here, My new C drive is a SATA Drive, Formatted to NTFS, The old 250GB Drive is IDE, and formatted to NTFS over 2 Partitions, I've given up for now, and will try again tomorrow.

I know its booting from the correct drive as i have a Mac Transformation Pack installed, (includes Mac Boot Screen), This screen shows, so i know its looking to the right drive, but then when windows should start to come up, It instead goes to a black screen where it stays.

Jumper Settings on top of the drive show 2 sets of jumper settings, 1 is for 32GB Mode, this works as slave, and will show in windows, but will only give me access to 32GB from the HDD, the second set of settings is for full 250GB Mode, But these settings will not work as slave, and causes windows to freeze with a black screen as stated above, not even an error message to give me an idea of the problem.

Ho well, I'll try again tomorrow, thanks for the help.

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Posted: 12th Oct 2008 20:51
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Odd. I'd try just various configurations. Try setting it as slave in full mode. Try putting it on a different ide chain if another one is available. Try letting windows sit for a while to see if it comes up, sometimes in vista it can sit that way for a while while it does stuff.


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Quick question - do you have any other ide hard drives installed? If not, then it should be installed as Master not slave - unless you have a DVD/CD drive on the same cable - in which case have you tried making the DVD/CD drive as slave instead?
Btw the force slave present option reads somthing like device 0 forcing dev 1 present - ripped the sticker off mine - image attached

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MSon
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no other IDE HDD's, but 1 sata, My IDE DVD Drive is currently set as cable select, but i did try disconneting my DVD Drive so only the IDE HDD was on, that didnt work, I'll try messing arround with the jumper again tomorrow.

Any why does a HDD need a jumper, I understand this is to set Boot order, ect, but you set this info in the Bios aswell?

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I would leave the bios as auto - just one other thing - the connector the drive is connected on matters - ie if you look at the ide cable there are obviously 2 connectors - one is for master and one for slave - can`t remember which is which though - think the one on the end is master. Not sure about the cable select - I always thought that a special cable was required(think I read that in the booklet I got with it - might be mobo dependent too), but I`m unsure. If it is a special cable, you need to configure the jumpers on the hdd to cable select - the sticker on the back of the hdd will show you the configuration if the hardware supports it. I have had older drives that don`t display this option though.
Its all trial and error really. Hope you get it working, theres nothing worse than losing important data.
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I once tried to install an IDE and a SATA drive on the same computer, (not mine) and no matter how I set it up the damned thing would lock up after install or the NFORCE system would have a hissy fit at boot.

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Weird, must be compatability perhaps, I got a SATA 120GB(registers 111GB) and a 160GB(registers 154GB and has partitions prior to installation on this pc - 4 drives - 1 with XP on from last PC), and an NFORCE 680i lite mobo, all running fine. Mate of mine tells me the mobo I have is the only one in the series that works as it should. I`ll ask him his source, though he is usually right.

You could always try a Caddy, its probably best to if your having problems as theres less risk of losing data/drive damage. Should be cheap too, about 20 quid. Can also be very useful to have around, so might not be a waste of money either.
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