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Michael S
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Posted: 30th Oct 2008 04:06
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Quote: "The PlayStation 2 is far from dead, and the console is outselling the PS3. With Sony Europe's developer relations manager George Bain announcing that it's no longer necessary for developers to submit upcoming titles to Sony for content approval, don't expect the PS2 to die off anytime soon. The platform is now open, and this action will certain spur on a spate of low-cost titles. Bain cited territories like Russia and India that are now able to "create low-development cost titles and release them in their market”. Dev kits are still an necessity, but there are no longer PS2 licensing fees. "This has never been done before," notes Bain. "This is something we're actively promoting.""

http://kotaku.com/5070265/the-ps2-is-now-officially-an-open-platform

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Osiris
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So, how does one go about getting an SDK then? Is it free or close to it. How does one put games on there, I know the PS2 like destroys parts of the disk as an identification sort of thing.

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Jeku
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Posted: 30th Oct 2008 16:38
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Quote: "I know the PS2 like destroys parts of the disk as an identification sort of thing."


I highly doubt your PS2 actively destroys your disc for copy protection. It will be interesting to see what people do with this in Europe.


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General Reed
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Cool, but whos gona want to develop for the ps2 over the pc or x360
?

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Little Bill
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Posted: 30th Oct 2008 19:52
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PS2 developers?


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Deathead
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I'd develop for the PS2. PC is fine, but the controls are hard to develop for, like which goes where, 360 is a bit more sophisticated, as in graphics(Shaders etc.)


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bitJericho
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Posted: 30th Oct 2008 20:10
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Quote: "but the controls are hard to develop for, like which goes where"


Eh? Don't map em manually, just make the players do it


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Deathead
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Quote: "Eh? Don't map em manually, just make the players do it"

Good point.


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Cliff Mellangard 3DEGS
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Posted: 30th Oct 2008 20:51 Edited at: 30th Oct 2008 21:48
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Dont forget that the ps2 is the console that have sold in largest quantity of all time from when it whas released.
And the largest developers have released over 150 new titles for it only this year.
And is still being sold as brand new with either buzz or singstar included.
The ps2 is still strong and many use it.
Not by me as i sold mine last year
Some fun stuff about ps2 and wii....
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/923/923572p1.html
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Aaron Miller
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Posted: 30th Oct 2008 23:29
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Quote: "Cool, but whos gona want to develop for the ps2 over the pc or x360"

Me.

PS2s have specialized DVD-R discs for them. They have special burners as well that come with the SDK. The burner will write a string as a producer name (PLAYSTATION) and then write the name of the SLUS file (Sony License United States). For example, Guitar Hero II's SLUS file is SLUS_417.47 (I think, something like that). This is an ELF file (Executable and Linkable Format). Included on the disc is a file called SYSTEM.CNF which gives the path to the file (cdrom0:\SLUS_xxx.yy) and (usually) explains the video mode. (BTW, the SLUS file name that gets written to the disc gets written to the volume label - SLUS_XXXYY). There's usually a folder called IOP which contains IDX files (These are, again, ELF files). These files appear to be drivers or libraries of some sort - which I assume the SDK provides - I also assume the SDK provides a way to create these.

I may have some information wrong, but this is what I've picked up.

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General Reed
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Quote: "PS2s have specialized DVD-R discs for them."

But i dont see how this is an advantage, it just means you have to spend more to buy specialised DVD's for the games.

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Jeku
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1 - You will still need to be a licensed developer to take advantage of this as far as I can tell.
2 - You will still need a hardware dev kit to develop your game with. Those are thousands of dollars apiece.


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ionstream
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Yeah, I'm afraid this isn't going to affect us bedroom coders unfortunately. Still have to have access to dev kits (you can't just buy them, you have to be an actual developer as far as I can know), and they's be expensive.

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Beast E Gargoyle
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Posted: 31st Oct 2008 04:58
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That is great news to hear. The only problem is I don't have a dev kit (yet) and my DBPro code to be converted to ps2 readable data might cost quite a bit too.

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DarthBasicVader
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Posted: 31st Oct 2008 15:00
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What about Elemental Engine II ? It seems it supports ps2 ..... i don't know exactly if it's true, but it's open source too ..

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