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X Games
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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 17:02 Edited at: 28th Dec 2008 17:02
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I have spent days on this and now hit a problem, i'm using MS3D, see image for my problem!




I have added vertex to mostly build this pig and ithink i have built the face the wrong way but should this not show in ms3d?

Anyone know of a way to fix it without starting again?

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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 17:09 Edited at: 28th Dec 2008 17:12
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...since you created this model from scratch, can't you just reverse the faces in question?

It'd take some time, but shouldn't be difficult to do...


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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 17:09
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Hm... That's very strange... I think the faces not showing properly may be inverted, try fixing that in MS3D.

Best.

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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 17:12 Edited at: 28th Dec 2008 17:13
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Damm just viewed model in flat shaded view, what can i do? Will i have to redo vertex face?

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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 17:24 Edited at: 13th Jan 2009 06:57
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Just take your time and select each face not showing up(one at a time to avoid confusion) then at the top under the 'Face' option choose 'Reverse Vertex Order'. In the future its good to model with 'Draw Backfaces' unchecked in each window.Hope that helped.

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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 17:46
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Quote: "under the 'Face' option choose 'Reverse Vertex Order'"


Thanks Disturbing 13 that fixed it
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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 18:03
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Or you could make it so that it doesn't select back faces, drag a selection box over the pig and reverse vertex order. Then the whole pig will be black, then make it so that you select back faces and select the whole pig and reverse vertex order.



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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 18:18
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darimc i can't get that way to work or i don't understand
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That wouldn't quite work, as faces that are at an angle would also be selected. If it was a cube it would work that way. Best to do a manual fix, and try to avoid the problem in the first place in future.

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Posted: 29th Dec 2008 11:49 Edited at: 29th Dec 2008 11:55
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Great pig model by the way.

I find it best to select and delete each offending face and recreate a new one 'in turn' (Do not forget to select the vertices after creating the new faces and weld together).
When doing this with a subject model such as yours its best to 'select and hide' all other vertices when recreating the new faces.

I hope this helps.

All the best of luck


EDIT: You may have to 'regroup' the new faces with the previous faces groups for the sake of the texture's application. Maybe 'Edit-refresh textures' afterwards.
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Quote: "That wouldn't quite work, as faces that are at an angle would also be selected. If it was a cube it would work that way. Best to do a manual fix, and try to avoid the problem in the first place in future."
This actually doesn't happen. I do this with all of my models in milkshape, it works perfectly.



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whadda you need a pig for

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Quote: "whadda you need a pig for"

I think it's for his game "Abattoir Nightmare".

http://gunn3rgames.net/forum/index.php?referredby=121
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Posted: 30th Dec 2008 13:10
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Quote: "Great pig model by the way."


Thanks

And thanks for everyones help i have it fixed now! I have re-done the ears and made the mesh a bit better! will show here soon.

Quote: "Quote: "whadda you need a pig for"
I think it's for his game "Abattoir Nightmare"."


Yes this is for my game ANX
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=139310&b=25

Once i have a full model that im happy with i will cut this up and make meat parts lol. Also i'm going to have a go at animateing it
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Nice model, I like it.


http://gunn3rgames.net/forum/index.php?referredby=19
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I don't know the program that you are using, but doesn't it have an option to automatically calculate the outside normals? It should at least have a flip normals button somewhere, so that you don't have to reorder the vertices yourself.

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when will your game be out me wanna play

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that looks like milkshape to me and it doesn't have an option to automatically calculate outside normals as far as i know...

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Posted: 13th Jan 2009 00:40 Edited at: 13th Jan 2009 00:43
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Quote: "that looks like milkshape to me "


yep it is!

Update on perssy pig; i have given her new ears, re-done the UV map and texture.

NEXT i'm going to have a go at anim her, all i think i will do is have here stand still and just move the head, side to side and eating!



EDIT: starting to think this should have been in 3D chat, MOD your call!

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looks good!

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Just as a quick tip, what i do is build it with the 3d port in flat shaded mode, and when ever i see a black face i select it (it is usually selected after it is made.) and i use the shortcut to reverse the vertex order. I think its ctrl shift f.....yeah i think it is. hope this helps

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I think I like the old texture better, but good work!



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