Hello, I have read some of the posts on the forums and it sounds like there are a lot of intelligent folks on her so who better to ask a question about DB and C++. I am in college and have no prior experience in programming. I will be taking my first programming classes in the fall and so I thought I would try and get a head start. I originally heard that the Game Programming starter kits were good and was going to get 6.0 untill I found out that it used DarkBASIC SE and, after some inquiry, decided that I would be better off just getting DarkBASIC itself. I also want to develop a good C++ knowledge so I will probably get GPSK 5.0 for an intro to that. My question is, since I have no prior coding experience, whether I should get DB or DBPro and, as far as C++ goes, if there is something better than the game programming starter kits (which there probably is) for someone with no C++ experience. Also, I have read several reviews, one saying that DB is good but does not feature Windows editing and another that said that it did not have a 3D modelling program. What are the importance of these things and should I be concerned about them at all? Thanks a lot.