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Newcomers DBPro Corner / Dark or C++?

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HippieRedneck
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Posted: 21st Aug 2003 10:05
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Me and some buddies are gonna make a game, but there is one problem: We can't agree on what software we should use.
We are gonna make a big game, so we can't use stuff like 3D rad and all that. Here's the situation:

Them: Say they are going to learn C++ and make the game there.
Me: Buy Super game creator pack and make the game there.

What's best? And please, give a reason on why it's best too.
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Renegade
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Posted: 21st Aug 2003 11:25 Edited at: 21st Aug 2003 11:26
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Im advicing for you guys to go with DB.
C++ is much better but C++ can't stand alone
in a game you will also need OpenGL or DirectX
for graphics and there is the networking programming
and much more.
If this is your first time that you make a game
use DB because its a alot faster.
If you want you can also use 3D Game Stodio
[href]www.3dgamestudio.com[/href]

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lcfcfan
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Posted: 21st Aug 2003 20:52
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rofl, Good luck with em learning c++ and making a game with in the next 5 years!

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HippieRedneck
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Yeah, that's what i said too. They are still going " Oh no, i aint using that much money on DarkBasic! I would rather use my cracked version of C++ and learn it, i bet it's really easy!" It's gonna take ages! Anyone know how i can talk them to sence?
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Mattman
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Posted: 21st Aug 2003 21:45
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David T
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Posted: 21st Aug 2003 22:35
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I'd go for DBPro too. ALthough people say they are going to learn C++, they will never do. It is well known as a game creator, but also well known as being ENTREMEMLY tricky to use.

I have next to me a 952 page book on how to write games in C++. That only covers up to basic 2D

There's no place like 127.0.0.1

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zao420
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2003 00:55
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I was looking into learning c++ for maing games. maybe one day i will, but there is a lot to learn. i find dbp so much easier i also use vb script lots to so i know all about loops and if's.. anyway i would choose dbp to get the basics of how to make games. then if dbp doesn't satify your needs go will c++
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ifman1
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Ya know, I bought DBPro to do prototyping for games that I plan to do in C++/OpenGL. I grew up programming BASIC for the Commodore and then in DOS with BASIC and QBASIC. I have the hardest time wrapping my brain around C/C++, especially Windows Code. There are a ton of programs, engines, and tutorials on the web to teach you game programming with C++. Although, like lcfcfan said... don't expect to just jump into it like you can DB. DB is simple, it's easy, and it's <ahem> BASIC.

Why don't you let them get C++ (cracked or a free compiler.. suggest the free one to avoid legal stuff)and you get DB(I'd get PRO), and in about 6 months compare what you've gotten done. I think it'll probably take them that long to get the hang of creating and resizing a window.

Now, if Lee would just get out from under DirectX and use OpenGL so we can go cross platform.... but hey... beggars can't be choosers, huh.


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Xander
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2003 06:01
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Tell them to look at the DB showcase
Some pretty awesome games there. It only takes about 10% of the time it takes to make a game in C++

Xander
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