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ASTECH
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Posted: 6th Sep 2009 02:38 Edited at: 6th Sep 2009 02:41
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EXAMPLE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTgyySpg--g

Just wondering if anyone is up for doing these segments?
I just wanted to do a good "slanted building" level.
Anyone willing to give it a shot? I know that I couldn't do
it and I know it would be interesting to see this.

Thanks

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Posted: 6th Sep 2009 02:57
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Just make a floor with a wall texture...

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He wants it slanted, like diagonal, like you were in a building that could fall over any moment
Can't say I can do that, maybe you can edit the mesh in the Segment Editor?

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I'm sure I know of a way. Would take some time, yet possible.

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I'd like to hear of this way. I'm looking forward to having a
slanted building as one of my levels.

Astek

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Posted: 6th Sep 2009 22:01
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How bout replacing the segment wall model with a slightly angled wall model? Would take like 3 different variations of the angle and placment but it would work bo doubt.Or just make one big static floor and rotate it?

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Or you could combine walls, floor and ceiling to one model and use the number keys to rotate that to your heart's desire?


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Quote: "Or you could combine walls, floor and ceiling to one model and use the number keys to rotate that to your heart's desire?"


Essentially what I was thinking. Make the wall into an entity, then the floor, and you can now create your own.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2009 15:46 Edited at: 7th Sep 2009 16:18
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djmaster, Aaagreen, Coach Shogun 20.
All correct, djmaster is spot on.
However could be done maybe in more than 2 standard ways. Collision on a complex internal cubed structure may cause player lock up (invis wall). So using entities is a better solution, taking time not to over lay entities and introducing door ways/doors would add to the task.

Based on the clip, the roof looks higher than a standard seg.
To make it easier to understand what I am trying to explain I will add some examples. brb.

Updated: anyone is welcome to ask me anything. Using a pre-seg layout of the intended space is very handy. Also I prefer to use the Page up/down more than the - +.


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Posted: 7th Sep 2009 16:17 Edited at: 7th Sep 2009 16:23
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And here is the in game shot. Whats nice with this effect is the player gravity makes the player slide for a small amount of distance.
Taking ones time would be the key, darker lighting, entities filling in the space of the wall texture would help hide any joins.


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Nice! This would help me a good bit!

Quote: "Make the wall into an entity, then the floor, and you can now create your own.
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Can you elaborate? Are you saying I make prefabs of these?
I know its possible. I just don't remember how. lol

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Static entities (A single Wall or Floor used via rotation).
I dont think it is possible to call a entire prefab into a import X.

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Oh. I get the whole "fake" segment deal.
I might just have to try that unless I hear better.

Thanks

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You can make a room structure in a 3d app (Floor & Wall in one object. And then import it into fpsc via a entity or possibly a seg maker.
However making larger room structures I found to create undesirable effects, like player lock up. I would have a test with a structure like a hallway and room made in a 3d app. export as .x import it into entity maker or something and then try to rotate the entire model (45') and see if the player can spawn, walk around etc.
I would also be interested if someone has another idea.

The segment maker by tgc would be worth a look to see if you can create below the floor level. As in degree angles, not just right angles.


Having the layers in the editor adjustable other than horizontal/vertical format would make this easy to do. Hint Hint for tgc.

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To avoid players being stuck, I'll spawn them on a flat surface.
I knew that them spawning slanted was a bad idea. lol

I can do that but I might test the entity hallways first.

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Posted: 10th Sep 2009 16:47 Edited at: 10th Sep 2009 16:48
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Very ncie defy very nice indeed.

@Astek: But couldnt u just model your scene, and rotate it and place it in your editor. Just wondering.


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Quote: "To avoid players being stuck, I'll spawn them on a flat surface.
I knew that them spawning slanted was a bad idea. lol"

lol, yeah. However I am going to test that theory right now. I shall report if possible using 45' entities.

Good luck.


@Red Eye,
Yeah thanks. I should have taken a bit more time, however I was sure alot of the walls were lined up correctly..hmmm.

Yeah, I found weird things happening with oversized entities I could walk on or in. I have a model of a bridge, 4 blocks long and no matter what I do the player locks up half way, needing to crouch walk. I hope someone has success.
For anyone who does not follow.




UPDATE:
It works. Spawn on 45'. Framerate was 38 before shot, small scene. v115.


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Nice. I like this concept a lot.
Thank You.

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