Ok I swear this is my last post regarding this insane topic. But hey, here we go again...
Quote: "Every single one of those EXCLUSIVE things have been lost. And without exclusive rights you CAN NOT sell, lend, or rent your work when its already being handed out for free."
*bangs head on desk*
yes.. you... can... example: Cinema 4D is being given away for free on the CD of a magazine this month. Maxon are still selling the exact same product on their web site. The magazine was granted permission to distribute it. Maxon still sell it. Show me how one cancels out the other? How Maxon have automatically given up all rights to their software by having it given out for free?
Quote: "Ok I will. Not a single person who submited a game went on to sell their creation without having to first update it significantly."
I should hope so too. If they seriously expected to make money from it then pretty much all of them needed updating. Anyway as for the one I mentioned before, the only extras were more levels. Nothing else. That is not a "NEW" game. That is extra levels.
Quote: "Never once did I say it was in the rules. I said it was common sense that there would be no point in doing so."
Common sense? Wild assumptions more like. You assumed you couldn't sell your work, you assumed you couldn't lend it, hire it, show it, etc. You're wrong on all counts because no-where does it say you can't do any of those things. Is it worth selling the same game we give away for free download? No, probably not - but it doesn't mean you can't do it.
Quote: "Lets all get pedmanatic. That means naked right?"
*shrugs* it might do, but then I said pedantic, not pedmanatic. Perhaps I should have said "if you want to get that anal about it", less room for misinterpretation there!
Quote: "And there is a difference between making a NEW Bamberman (you mean Bomberman?)"
No, I meant what I said - Bamberman. You've not been around here for very long have you? Besides, why make a new version? None of the others did last time, they just added more levels.
Quote: "Sigh, everyone is rallying behind the few non exclusive rights well retain, when the rules seem to indicate we will retain all."
Because those "few non exclusive rights" are actually ALL rights associated with the game. The fact you grant us permission to distribute it doesn't remove any single right from you, no matter how many ways you twist it to make it appear so.
Quote: "At the very least, I hope the rules are updated."
Why? You're the only person who didn't understand them so far.
Quote: "Rule number 13 also needs to be more clear, so that people understand "promotional" also means distribution for free."
Or perhaps we credit them with a little intelligence to figure this out for themselves based on the words infront of their eyes?
Quote: "Why cant they just write about my grill in a magazine? Why cant they just head down to the mall and let people demo my grill?"
If you want to submit a demo of your game, then do so. But under no circumstances will we judge an alternative version of the game in its place. To do so would be utterly unfair to the community as a whole and the other entrants. That is the condition of the competition. There are no exceptions to this rule.
If your game is too good to be given away in its "full" form (and lets face it, you've 3 months and a 15 MB limit, I'd love to see what killer commercial title can be created within that) then please for the love of God and my sanity, don't enter.
Geez, I'm glad we haven't got the "must send your source code" rule this time! What a storm that might kick up again
Thread locked.
18 mins of my life utterly wasted.
Move on people, there's nothing more to see here.
"Gentlemen, we have short-circuited the Universe!"
