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Murdock743
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Has anyone made a shotgun code for a pattern as I can do a slug but that just wont work for my game. I had an idea on what to do shucj as make it an array but I have no clue how to make it.
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Christian
Thanks in advance Christian.
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Murdock743
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Does any one have any ideas or a code snipplet I could use or look at?
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Christian
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TheAbomb12
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Umm.. it would be really hard for you to make a shotgun, or anything else for that matter, while in dark basic. You should probably get some modeling software like Wings 3d, milkshape, or 3D canvas.

Not many people want to take the time to sit there and "code" a shotgun directly from dark basic.

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Murdock743
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You missunderstande me I mean like the buckshot from the gun or the bullets. For example if you play the game halo and you pull out the shotgun and fire at the wall you see the bullet holes from where the bullets collided with the wall. How would you make a cod for that as I have no idea.

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Velorien
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Lets say you have a wall. You model it so that it looks ruined(like that it has bullet holes, grenade fragments etc.). Then you make small objects to fill that holes so that the wall when it's covered with them looks like it's whole, a non-damaged wall. Then you code in DB that when your bullet collides with, let say, object 2 which is a bullethole cover, you hide (or if you can unload it or destroy it or something)the object 2. Then the wall will look like it has a bullethole inside it. Repeat the proces and you get something like that geomode in Red Faction.

I know, i know it's really complicated but hey you can do it with textures or something like that.

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Darksyde
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or are u meaning the fact that a shotgun has a spread affect with its bullets, for example they will all fall random within a certain area ?
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JoelJ
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thats what i thought he was saying. how would you make it so when you shoot your shotgun, it shoots a random spread of about 10 'bullets', how would you make the bullet holes in your wall?

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bullets would intersect the wall at a given position and u can place a small 3d plain with the bullet texture on it.

Or

Using a bitmap area and a code of a rough filled elipse u can add these to the current textures dynamically.

http://www.lunarpixel.com
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Murdock743
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I mean the pattern how would you code that?
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Christian
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John H
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Posted: 17th Sep 2003 01:23 Edited at: 17th Sep 2003 01:28
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Do what Indi said. Find where the object collision is between the wall and your bullet object, and place a plain textured with bullet hole there.

EDIT

Feelin generous

BulletObject=1
WallObject=2
BulletTex=3

If object Collision(1,2)>0
BullX=Object Position X(1)
BullY=Object Position Y(1)
BullZ=Object Position Z(1)
Make Object Plain 3,1 : `possibly set cull here
Texture Object 3,3
Position Object 3,BullX,BullY,BullZ
Endif

Somethin like that (wrote it quick, untested, wont work but it'll give ya good idea)

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Murdock743
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I still dont quite get it (I'm slow sorry). And how would the plain help? I dont need the texture I couldn't care less about the texture.
you lost me with the whole plaine idea.
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Murdock743
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Could anyone help me here as I dont understand this.
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Christian Merrill
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orv
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I believe RPGamer is using the plain object as sort of a piece of a movie set to give the illusion of bullet holes on the wall in the area that was shot at by the shot gun. The texture for this piece would look like the texture of the wall but with bullet holes drawn on it! You would just position it a hair closer to the camera than the wall is (i think) to make sure that you see it.

Another way of looking at it:
* Take a piece of plain old ordinary paper.
* Draw bullet holes on it with a magic marker.
* Pretend to shoot the wall near by with your hand!
* Walk over and tape your picture of the bullet holes to the wall where you aimed!

I think that this is what trick is being attempted here.
Of course since the texture would be the same as the wall, you would only see the bullet holes drawn on the texture not the outline of the plain object that you were texturing!

The piece of paper would be our analogy for the plain object.


The Results:
BAM! you aimed at the wall and shot your shot gun.
Ten bullet holes appear on the wall in the area that you pointed at.

I hope this helps.
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Zen_Budha
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Actually although I don't know how I believe what he's trying to do it make the shotgun fire like a shotgun in the game. Where for example a pistol fires a single round, and slightly off target will miss.
Many games have shotguns where you can hit evemy's when not aiming straight at them.
Or in another way of putting it instead of like a single collision line being drawn from the barrels it's a slowly explanding cone. The farther away the more it spreads, and is more likely to hit the target. The closer the target or object the tighter the spread.

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Socs
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Mabee if you make 10 little beebees or create them. And then hide them. Then when you hit the key to fire your gun all of the 10 beebees you have created will show up and move like your firing a shotgun.
I cant really help you with the code becuase I'm not really been around DB that much I been working with BlitzBasic.
Sorry.
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Socs
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This is what you want your spray to look like right?

...
. . . <---Shotgun Spray the beebees
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HardBoot
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i dont realy know, new at this stuff, but..
i think it would be the same as shooting one bullet, except make a bunch. then instead of giving them all the trajectory of exactly where the gun is pointing, put a rnd in the angle the bullet gets from the gun/character. Hope it helps.
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Socs
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yea thats what I was trying to say. Do what hardboot sayed.
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