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FPSC Classic Models and Media / [LOCKED] SCIFI PACK, for x9 and 10 from me

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 23rd Mar 2010 23:43 Edited at: 24th Mar 2010 10:31
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ok, well This pack is done, download bellow

50 difrent scifi segments
4 scifi soldiers
2 aliens
many many difrent scifi objects

Removed until further notice

you may use any of thease modles how you want, just dont sell

here are some pictures and a small video





video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjf3erVD27A

second video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeGXHJzzrxY

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burneriza
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 00:49
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You stole those faces from Oblivion! Take a look at the African guys face, then look at most African guys faces in Oblivion!

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 00:51
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Quote: "You stole those faces from Oblivion! Take a look at the African guys face, then look at most African guys faces in Oblivion!"


I did not steal anything,lol, prove it, I can prove my work can you? can you prove my work like i can?

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Deathead
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 01:32
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Quote: "I did not steal anything,lol, prove it, I can prove my work can you? can you prove my work like i can?"

Looks great but anyone would know you used Facegen*, or judging by the faces looking the same except a couple of little alterations you could of used a model template. Aka. http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/free-max-mode-head-face-human/351966, but I know most definately that you did not "steal" it at all(unless you are using Facegen without the required license), as the free head is free.

But overall the pack looks great, has a nice industrial sci-fi feel, just a shame about a few texture errors on the armour, but you can't really help that after rigging, but so far so good Daniel, go treat your family to another meal!lol

*Facegen is the generator for faces used in Oblivion and Fallout incase you didn't know..



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JLMoondog
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 01:36 Edited at: 24th Mar 2010 01:39
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Sadly the mesh and texture layout look very similar. It's also strange that your face textures are a better quality then the rest of the character's textures.

Example:


I think in order to get rid of any suspicion you should upload a screen of the head mesh wireframe and a few shots of the face texture and any layers before you merged them into one image.

Edit: Deathhead beat me too it. So if you did use a generator, you need to explain this instead of saying it's all your own work. If someone tries to sell a game with these they can get into serious trouble for not owning the license.


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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 02:03
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I dont need to explain my work, I think most people here know I work hard for what i do. if you dont like it dont download it, if you think for a second that I am a theaif then dont use it. it will be free for every one and i will give it away soon.

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 02:06
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@Deathead

thanks, you going to make me go broke with all the diners I have to do for my family,lol.

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Nilloc
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 02:13
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he didnt copy the skin color tone is way diffrent
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Deathead
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 02:23
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Quote: "he didnt copy the skin color tone is way diffrent "

Facegen can use pictures to create a texture, for instance Oblivion's Orcs. But I agree with Josh Mooney if for instance someone wanted to make a game with these heads and if it requires a license not only will the person(s) making the game be charged, it'll be a massive charge aswell, $995 for re-distribution for a software. And this is just TGC and $995 is a large sum, for most here. A little warning just incase, if it is the Generator in use.



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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 02:25 Edited at: 24th Mar 2010 02:26
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there was going to be more in this pack but becouse people are saying im a theif im just relising it now with what it has.to bad some people has to think every one is a thief

download is above,enjoy

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Soviet176
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 02:36
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Daniel does not "thief" anything. I have seen his work and how he creates his stuff. Accusing people of piracy because he may use a program that may be a lot is stupid.

"I haz no sig :o"
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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 02:48 Edited at: 24th Mar 2010 02:49
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that is right, I do not steal, but like i said the free pack is abouve in the first post,''any thanks is welcome

here is the original link to the thread for this pack

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&b=24&t=164326&p=0

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Decneo
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 03:00
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i think if he use facegen it will be the high poly face that facegen generated but here is the lowpoly , anyway i believe he works too hard if you've been seen his work for along time ago you will know ,he improves his skill and he is not a thief.keeping your work daniel.

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 03:07
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you know what is funny though

thease faces look nothing alike what so ever,lol





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Soviet176
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 03:16
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lol crap photo of oblivion anyway, looks like it was ran on low quality lawl...

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The Storyteller 01
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 03:20
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Thanks for your generosity DW!

Especially the segments look very well done and compatible with the SF stock.

And on a side note I think the SF "humans" would look a lot better with some kind of helmet or face mask anyway

In case you find my grammar and spelling weird ---> native German speaker ^^
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burneriza
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 04:02
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Quote: "you know what is funny though

thease faces look nothing alike what so ever,lol"



Because that isn't a african from Oblivion, Even if it was, then the guy had waaaaay to pale skin.

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Shaka
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 04:08
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Burneriza, I noticed the exact same thing when I saw the pictures. I didnt even have to read any posts before I said out loud "Thats the guy from Oblivion. You see him all over the game" So I know what youre talking about. My two brothers know its him too.

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burneriza
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 04:15
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Yay someone with at least half a mind .
[quote]I noticed the exact same thing when I saw the pictures. I didnt even have to read any posts before I said out loud "Thats the guy from Oblivion. You see him all over the game"

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That face on the black fella looks like Baurus's face from Oblivion.

He's the guy in the Blades.

That's a lame password.
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heltor
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 05:09
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Now this is gonna be fun to use. I love it. Dan is the man, with the modeling plan. SWEET

If your not on the edge your taking up to much room!!!!!!!
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General Jackson
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 05:16 Edited at: 24th Mar 2010 05:28
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Its a Oblivion texture edit- admit it daniel.

However - you did a GREAT job on the meshes\rest of textures. Thankyou Daniel

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 06:25
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Quote: "Burneriza, I noticed the exact same thing when I saw the pictures. I didnt even have to read any posts before I said out loud "Thats the guy from Oblivion. You see him all over the game" So I know what youre talking about. My two brothers know its him too"


You know whats funny, I have never even played this Oblivion,lol. Ill tell you what, Ill show you how i got the textures if you show me a piture of this oblivian guy, you go get me a piture of this oblivian guy then ill show you 100 percent proff where i got them.

to every one else, thanks, enjoy

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LeminR
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 06:49
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thanks
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Shaka
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 07:12
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Quote: "show me a piture of this oblivian guy, you go get me a piture of this oblivian guy then ill show you 100 percent proff where i got them."


Okay, deal.

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bond1
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 07:13 Edited at: 24th Mar 2010 07:16
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Sorry Daniel, I hate to do this to you. But you've been here a long time and should know better. These are facegen/oblivion heads.

To be fair, perhaps you downloaded these heads from somewhere not knowing where they came from. But everyone should know that these can't be distributed or used commercially. Same for the ones you are selling on your site.

Other than minor de-triangulation errors, the topology is exactly the same.





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Shaka
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 07:20
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Bond1, you're the man. I was gonna take an in game screenie tomorrow to show him, but you got to it first. Thanks for helping out. I knew I wasn't just seeing things.

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Crazy Acorn
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What a shame daniel..... what a shame....

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Shaka
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 07:28
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Quote: "What a shame daniel..... what a shame..."


- I second that.

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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 07:52
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agreed

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LeminR
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Maybe, he uses polyboost to resurface the orgin mesh,but at this way it's not an illegal right? i'm a newbee i don't know
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Mr Game
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 10:50
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Ooops

Insomnia is coming...
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Bond1 beat us all.

That falls under fail right?

As for the textures, you can plainly see the similarities,



Thats a overlay on low opacity burn, The angles are a little off but yeah thier spot on. Ths nose and mouth are the give away. If your going to steal it, do a better job of hiding it. Im sure this is the second time ive heard you being accused of using Facegen.

Learn people, piracy dosnt work here.
We will always know the orginal source. TGC, its like ANNO without the tard.

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 15:34
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ok, i promised if you tryed to prove me wrong i would prove 100 percent right???? ok, give me a couple min to prove you wrong,lol.

how is using facegen stealing? I bought the license.

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Quote: "Maybe, he uses polyboost to resurface the orgin mesh,but at this way it's not an illegal right?"


Yes that is fine, but I can match these models up vert per vert. There has been no retopologising. It's a matter of integrity. The direct output of Facegen models can't be redistribruted, and people that download or buy his models in good faith that it is his own work are being deceived.

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 15:36
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@ bond one, They use face gen, I use face gen, I never in my life said the heads where mine, acully in alot of threads i have made made in the past I have said to use face gen. the bodys are mine,sp give me a couple mins to show a piture of froff that thewase are mine from face gen.

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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 15:41 Edited at: 24th Mar 2010 15:51
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The issue is you REDISTRIBUTING them. The redistribution license is $995 per software title. The license isn't transferable from you to anyone else. If people were to use these in a game, then technically they would be in violation of Facegen's license. Just like I can't sell music that I've bought from itunes.

The root of the problem is, are you even allowed to distribute them in this manner (assuming you've bought the $995 license). And also, people need to be aware of it UP FRONT on whether they can legally use them or not, otherwise it comes across as deceiving.

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 15:53
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ok, well i'll contack them and ask, untill then dont use them comershialy, this is all i can do. bond is right and i dont want any one to get in trobble. you may use any modle in this pack comershialy but not the modles with faces on them, the aliens may be used comershaily, I truly apoligies and I think I wasted alot of my money.I will pay the price if I did something wrong here and i will correct myself and my wen site if they tell me to.

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Until we get to the bottom of this matter this thread will be locked. I see Daniel that your site is also offline which is probably for the best.

Too many times people have used the excuse "I didn't know!" or "I thought I could!" PLEASE make extra sure that you (and this is for everyone) can use stuff from other programs, if you are unsure in any way then ask the relevant people, don't assume.



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