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3 Dimensional Chat / Buy ing - darkbasic and 3dgamemaker

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Cody
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Posted: 19th Oct 2003 06:35
Hey im really close to buying the 3d maker or what ever it is and dark basic but i seen the 3d gamemaker has the life time and kill bars is there any way u could get rid of that and make it kooler?
Ps : i down loaded dark basic demo and do not no one thing about programing so does the cd come with codes or what ever for models and stuff?? [email protected]
Cody
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Posted: 19th Oct 2003 06:47
in stead of dark basic is there a diff program that is better more / better graphics
BearCDPOLD
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Posted: 19th Oct 2003 08:07
Since it's hard to encompass 3d game design in one software package 3d GameMaker is limited, fun and easy to use, but limited.
You can remove the life/score labels, but I'm not quite sure if you can redesign them. Another limitation of 3d GameMaker is that you need to pay a hefty fee to sell the games you make on it commercially.

Unfortunately DarkBASIC itself does not come with any models except for those that come in their sample programs, and I'm sure the original creators would not like you selling a game with their model in it. It does come with some nice documentation on all the commands, and it even provides some examples. If you want pre-made models, you could either use DarkMatter(package that comes with bunches of pre-made models+new commands), or ask somebody to make models for you; however, you may need to pay them for their work.

If you are totally and completely new to programming in general, there is an excellent book called Beginner's Guide to DarkBASIC Game Programming, and it is available for purchase on this site.

*Also available for purchase on this site is a program called 3d Canvas Pro that allows you to make your own 3d models.

If you have any more questions go ahead and add to this thread. And if at all during this post I insulted your intelligence, please accept my humblest apologies.

Good luck,
Juvy

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Cody
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Posted: 19th Oct 2003 23:39
ok thx for leting me no that i cant change it and no i was not insulted so with 3d canvas i can make 3d models but is there a program where i can make a map like say i have a pic on my pc i want in the map can i put it in the map if theres a program?
im saving my money so i can buy 2 programs from here but trying to fig out witch ones i should get
BearCDPOLD
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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 07:59
3d Canvas and other modellers will allow you to make any 3d maps you want in your game since generally you can load modelled maps like anything else into DarkBASIC, and if I'm hearing you right you want to put your own texture on the map (square pics of grass of concrete or whatever that makes your map have realistic looking surfaces). To put your pic/texture into the map you can either use practically any modeller's texturing interface, or you can texture it manually in the code you put into DarkBASIC.

As for which programs you should buy it depends on what you want to do with your developed games. If you really want to avoid programming 3d GameMaker is probably the best choice along with a 3d modeller for custom content
If you want to pursue a career in gaming (either sell your stuff on the internet, or eventually want to go work for Nintendo or Microsoft), I would recommend buying DarkBASIC and a 3d modeller that seems to suit your needs and is relatively cheap and easy to use.
3d GameMaker is a heck of a lotta fun, though, and I play with it in my spare time for some kicks. If you really want a program that is totally based around making 3d maps you can texture then check out Cartography Shop 3.

Your end choice should really be based off your observations and instincts. It usually turns out good, and if not, that' just part of the growth experience.

Posting on this forum is a good idea, people on here may be slow, but they're knowledgeable and help the new guys get rollin' pretty good.

Have Fun,
Juvy

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Cody
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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 08:10
BASICLY im looking for a program where i can keep making games and sell them but i want to make multi player games like where me and my friend can play the game i made and who ever buys it but i want the grphics to look good buti dont want a kill time and life bar that looks like that on 3d gamemaker,i want to start making games for the net /pursue a career in gaming thx for helping me
Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 11:42
I haven't used 3D Gamemaker but I'm pretty sure that you can remove those bars if you want.

Pincho.
Hamish McHaggis
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Posted: 20th Oct 2003 20:09 Edited at: 20th Oct 2003 20:11
If you want to pursue a career in gaming, then you want DarkBasic, not the 3D game maker. All professional game makers code their own games. It's essential that you have an advanced knowledge of programming and computers. DB is a good place to start.

Brains are for idiots.

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TheAbomb12
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Posted: 21st Oct 2003 00:32 Edited at: 21st Oct 2003 00:34
Quote: "If you want to pursue a career in gaming, then you want DarkBasic"


Well yes and no. I would suggest going straight to Dark Basic Pro (if you could afford it). DBpro offers a lot more than Dark Basic and is still relitivly easy to use (relitivly). However, if you have NEVER programmed before, even dark basic classic will seem overwhelming.

Quote: "BASICLY im looking for a program where i can keep making games and sell them but i want to make multi player games like where me and my friend can play the game i made"


ok, first off, I want to tell you before hand, START SMALL!!!. especially if you havent programmed before. The more "small" project you do, the better programmer you will become.

Quote: "but i want the grphics to look good buti dont want a kill time and life bar that looks like that on 3d gamemaker"


Having graphics look good is up to the person who makes them. Dark Basic pro and classic won't make your models, pictures, maps look good for you.

If you think you might need help with anything(understanding dark basic, Game programming logic, anything else), im always glad to lend a helping hand

[email protected]

Cody
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Posted: 4th Nov 2003 02:51
when i buy dbpro

im looking to make a game that can go multi player
like my friend wants me to try and make a multi player skate baording game could that happen? if i buy dbpro
Megaton Cat
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Posted: 4th Nov 2003 07:59
After ALOT of expiriance and succesful finished games. Heck finishing a game by it self is hard, let alone multiplayer.

but yea DBP can do that.

My philosophy:
LESS CHAT MORE SCREENIES.

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