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HyTech Designs Sam
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Posted: 20th Nov 2003 23:48
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Hi as you may have guessed Im new here, name's Sam.
I was just wondering how do you make 3D chacters for your game? I am downloading 3D wings right now, but is that enough, do I need any other progs?
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zircher
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Posted: 21st Nov 2003 00:52
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Character design and animation is the most difficult part of game creation in my opinion. I've seen good things down with 3D wings so that is a good place to start. Take your time, research, and practice. It is a skill that requires development and it won't happen over-night.
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sybixsus
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Wings is a perfectly good 3d modeller, though it's interface is quirky to say the least. You'll probably either love it or loathe it. Milkshape is also very popular, and cheap. You could also try Anim8or.

But Wings doesn't handle texturing, UV mapping or animation, all of which will be necessary if you're going to make some nice characters. Over the years, playing with a lot of lower end tools, I've found that a good and popular combination without spending too much money would be something like this :

Modeller : Wings/Milkshape ( free/cheap )

UV Mapper : Ultimate Unwrap 3d ( cheap )

Animation : Character FX ( cheap )

Texturing : PaintShop Pro / Gimp ( moderate / free )


I personally don't have to worry as I have 3dsMax and Photoshop from my days as a freelancer, but I do own Milkshape and Ultimate Unwrap, and I can recommend them highly. They're great tools at a very low price.
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HyTech Designs Sam
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Thank you very much guys.
Just one more question, I have one half of what I need (Wings and PSP) but what is a UV Mapper and Animation? Thank you agian you've very helpful.
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Newbie Brogo
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Posted: 22nd Nov 2003 01:13 Edited at: 22nd Nov 2003 01:13
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Animation makes your characters move, it animates them, so he looks lik ehe's walking ect. But i dont really have a seperate animation thing, mine came wit my modeler, but my modeler isnt very good...
ya, i heard good things bout character FX, try searching google?

You did what? For who?! For how many jellybeans?!?

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HyTech Designs Sam
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Well, Wings 3D did not work on my computer, neither did Milkshape so I downloaded the demo of 3D canvas pro but it does not export X files. Does any one know any other free modellers and animators (demo, I don't wanna put out money for 3D modelling yet)?
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HyTech Designs Sam
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Nevermind I just read another post and got a prog. for converting .3ds to .X files thanks though

-Sam
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John H
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Posted: 24th Nov 2003 04:04 Edited at: 24th Nov 2003 04:05
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Whats wrong with Milkshape? What error did it give you?

This is what I use

DBP for Programming

Milkshape for Models (20 bucks)

Lithunwrap for UV Mapping (FREE) http://files.seriouszone.com/download.php?fileid=198


UV Mapping is the process of assigning UV points to a model, then exporting them as an image which you then paint the texture of the model on.

I then use Paintshop Pro (80 bucks, VERY cheap for the great features of this product - at Staples it comes with a 30 Dollar Mail in Rebate if you have some other products... it gives you a list) For Texturing

You can check out some of the stuff I have made at

The Eternal Destiny (My Teams Game) Screenshots Page

I did all the textures on the buildings, and on the one monster I modelled everything you see there EXCEPT the Deen Model. Did all those models in Milkshape

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HyTech Designs Sam
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Ok, I'll try MilkShape again. Do you know if it is for sale anywhere in Canada? If its only $20 its worth getting. And thanks for that link to the free UV mapper. Oh and those pics look great.

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Hypervoxels
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Hi S_A_M,
I would seriously rethink your decision to buy Milkshape. For $20 your getting the same thing that Wings3D has. I'm lucky enough to have a copy of 3DS Max and Cinema 4D, but I found Blender http://www.blenderfoundation.com a great program for modling. As for 3D packages I am blessed with a copy of Photoemelements, but if you look up Project Dogwaffle, it is a great painting program. If you have some where selling 3D world or anything like that look for Cineam 4D CE,as it is a great package, and though Modelling is not it's strong point, it has uv mapping and a .X export.
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HyTech Designs Sam
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so that blender thing is a free modeling program?

-Sam
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HyTech Designs Sam
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your link should update your link its http://www.blender3d.com now.

-Sam
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Milkshape Go with milkshape


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HyTech Designs Sam
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Milk shpae does not work for my comp. I am going to get it fixed but blender is free which makes a big difference for me >

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Um ... Someone said 3DCanvas doesn't export .X files. It has an export function and does just that.

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HyTech Designs Sam
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Posted: 26th Nov 2003 23:22 Edited at: 26th Nov 2003 23:23
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the demo does not export .x files

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Black Hydra II
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3D studio demo is only if your going to buy it. Personally it is bad. I think programs like Milkshape are better and cheaper. If you don't need animations then Anim8or is probably the best free product

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Newbie Brogo
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Posted: 29th Nov 2003 00:22
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hey! i use anim8or, its good, but now i'm starting to get into Wings3D

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Posted: 1st Dec 2003 17:12
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btw another good 3d modeler is gmax, it's free and with the tempest gamepack(also free) you can do models and maps:
http://www.discreet.com/products/gmax/
you can also download other import&export tools
give it a try and it doesn't matter if you don't like it because it's FREE

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