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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 01:39
Why does everything need to be useful?

Philosophy beyond physics is called metaphysic. Clearly going further, however, deeper into the "claim and theory" area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 01:43
Quote: "Philosophy beyond physics is called metaphysic."


Ah yes, metaphysics.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 01:54 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 02:01
Quote: "I don't know what you mean. I looked up priory, and posteriori and they had no connection to anything in the thread. Not only that but they are based on philosophy, and my theory is based on physics. You find physics as a proof, but philosophy is based on conversation."


Yes, the terms are based from philosophy, for example, Immanuel Kant used them a lot, he was also keen on supporting the idea that knowledge is gained through experience (as opposed to the 'Pure Reason' philosophers tended to believe). He was somewhat an empiricist (though not completely), but science is an empirical affair. I use the terms because their definitions apply.

But science is all about vigorous testing before claims are made. Hypotheses are made before, they're not judgements, they're statements to test or predictions.

a priori = judgment prior to knowledge/evidence
a posteriori = judgment post knowledge/evidence

All of the theories you've presented on this forum have lacked the evidence. Just as you've claimed in this thread your proof is in the future. This means you are making judgments prior to having the evidence or knowledge. Hence a priori.

The scientific method works differently, it makes judgments after evidence/knowledge/testing, hence a posteriori and they may find further testing is needed.

For instance in medical science, they don't assume the properties of a drug will work before, even if it seems logical and seems like it would work or seems like good science. It would go through numerous trials and they'd test the effects before even releasing it to the public. Hence certain alzheimers reversing drugs aren't on the market yet. Clinical trials are necessary.

A person could come in and say their medicine is based on chemisty, as some pharmaceutical companies will do (particularly those developing diet pills or miracle cures), but lack the pure scientific testing to say whether or not they work, are safe and so on. The scrutiny of the scientific method helps make medical science effective and not only that, but safe - granted it doesn't mean there aren't risks in certain areas.

However, when looking at a scientific approach you're more lax, you're more like a pharmaceutical company selling diet pills or miracle cures. Yes, you could well be right. But we don't yet know. The current support is inconclusive.

Quote: "There is nothing beyond physics.. everything is physics. So already.. philosophy has become useless.
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Depends entirely on the philosophy. Philosophy hasn't become useless. For instance ethical philosophy can determine a person's behaviour (like Utilitarianism, Situation Ethics, Philosophical Buddhism, the Categorical Imperative, Humanism, Virtue Ethics and so on). Other philosophy can influence a much more scientific approach. Given science came from philosophy, but was born out of a more empirical approach, using what can be observed as opposed to what can be imagined. Given you looked up 'a priori' I suspect there's a lot of philosophy you'd unfamiliar with. It's not all Descartes, Plato, Aristotle and the likes.

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Benjamin!!! *waves fist in theatralic anger*

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:00
Quote: "Philosophy beyond physics is called metaphysic. Clearly going further, however, deeper into the "claim and theory" area."


No.. metaphysics just mean that you don't understand something so it is given a spooky characteristic. If you saw a Hologram or even a TV 200 years ago it would be metaphysics.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:02
Quote: "If you saw a Hologram or even a TV 200 years ago it would be metaphysics."


It would be physics I dont yet understand. How it got there and how I would get there would be metaphysics.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:02 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 02:04
Quote: "All of the theories you've presented on this forum have lacked the evidence."


The future from when I posted them. If I posted them in 2004, and the proof was found in 2009 it is a future proof. The proofs are in the past now. But I keep adding to my theory, so some more proofs are in the current future again.

I have about 100 past proofs. and about 10 proofs left to find in the future.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:05
Quote: "How it got there and how I would get there would be metaphysics."


How the TV got there?

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Yes! I was joking of course.

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Let's apply a little logic:
1. We cannot gaze at the sun during the day and we need to eat during the day, therefore our skin cannot photosynthesise.
2. If we can gain energy from staring at the sun at dawn and dusk then our eyes must photosynthesise.

Our eyes certainly have photo-receptive cells, so it's an interesting thought that they could possibly photosynthesise, but even if they could how on earth would two tiny pinholes absorb enough energy to survive?

The reason we eat at all is that we are incapable of fixing carbon from the air, so we cannot internally produce the carbohydrates that give us energy. But how did we get to this state? Was there a transitional period where we got part of our energy from the sun and part from food? If so are we still able to fix small amounts of carbon?
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:13 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 02:14
Hey OBese87

Read this article. You might find it interesting.

I believe we will evolve over our physical bodies one day, but that is a believe. I dont claim this to be true or based in any science.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:17 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 02:18
Quote: "Read this article. You might find it interesting."


He lost weight in 10 days of being scrutinized. He failed. How did you miss that?

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:21 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 02:21
Well if he is sitting around meditating all day then he's not using much energy, but I think he sounds like a bit of a conman.

Quote: "He lost weight in 10 days of being scrutinized. He failed. How did you miss that?"

Yeah, that's a bit telling.
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:23 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 02:25
Yes he did. But he didn't "fail" as the observation continued and the results where rather interesting. It might not be permanent but it is fascinating.

I take your extreme (he failed) reply to this, that you deny this as it does not resonate with how you think the world around you works. So it must be false.

There certainly is something to it...otherwise there would not be all these studies. At least I think our scientists dont throw out money on investigations like this otherwise.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:27
Quote: "Let's apply a little logic:
1. We cannot gaze at the sun during the day and we need to eat during the day, therefore our skin cannot photosynthesise.
2. If we can gain energy from staring at the sun at dawn and dusk then our eyes must photosynthesise."


Woah woah woah woah woah woah. Who told you you're allowed to use logic?

Quote: "I believe we will evolve over our physical bodies one day"


Perhaps, yes. But it relies on a lot of chance.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:29 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 02:33
Quote: "I take your extreme reply to this, that you deny this as it does not resonate with how you think the world around you works. So it must be false."


I was looking for the part where he lost weight, and it was there. If I didn't eat I would lose weight... so he's the same as me. That's the way the world works.

Some people want to find something strange like ghosts, orbs to make things more interesting.. that's the way things work.

Physics are interesting as they are. The two slit experiment is interesting without Quantum Physics.

Action At A Distance is interesting without being Spooky.

The truth is often more interesting than the strange world of not eating. The guy dressed as a woman, and lived in the jungle, and pretended not to eat... it's still interesting.

People pretend to see ghosts.. that is psychologically interesting.

There could be life after death.. physically.. so that is interesting without any weirdness.

This whole Universe could be a simulation, that is interesting, and doesn't break any physical rules.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:36 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 02:38
Quote: "The guy dressed as a woman, and lived in the jungle, and pretended not to eat... it's still interesting."


Thats ignorant, racist and culturally offensive . It even implies that you feel superior over him or their culture..., here I might be reading too much into it. You wear jeans, he wears robes...you are clearly entitled to make this remark

Quote: "Quantum Physics."


let me guess...you dismiss this?

Quote: "This whole Universe could be a simulation, that is interesting, and doesn't break any physical rules."


It is. If so, couldn't you code in ghosts?
Nah! Just kidding. I also believe that the world we perceive is an illusion though.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:39 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 02:40
This thread is full of complete retardation

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:41 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 02:41
...so you felt the need to add to it?

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This is like believing in Astral Projection lol
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Quote: "Thats ignorant, racist and culturally offensive . It even implies that you feel superior over him or their culture..., here I might be reading too much into it. You wear jeans, he wears robes...you are clearly entitled to make this remark

Quote: "Quantum Physics."

let me guess...you dismiss this?"


It says in the link that he wears a dress.

Once I added the flow into holes for gravity, I had Quantum Physics working as physics. So Quantum Physics wasn't so strange anymore, and I had a layer lower than Quantum Physics full of holes. So Gravity being backwards as attraction was the strangeness made by man.

Wave / particle duality was a particle passing through a wave so not odd at all.

The observer / no observer changes were to do with add holes, remove holes. Like if you put a sponge in an experiment with water, you get a change. So not odd at all.

Nothing is odd when you understand the physics.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 02:43 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 02:43
Quote: "This is like believing in Astral Projection lol "

I actually do...

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I vaguely remember something about a desert village where the people barely move all day and barely eat or drink anything, it was very odd. I think it was in South America somewhere.
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 03:55
Quote: "The future from when I posted them. If I posted them in 2004, and the proof was found in 2009 it is a future proof. The proofs are in the past now. But I keep adding to my theory, so some more proofs are in the current future again.

I have about 100 past proofs. and about 10 proofs left to find in the future."


You seem to have a misunderstanding of how proof works.

A person may make a prediction or hypothesis, which may later be proven true either by their own hands or the discover of others.

From what I understood your so-called 'proofs' were your own observations, your own interpretations and ideas. This is a hypothesis. It could well be found to be proven to be true later on.

This is my point about a priori and a posteriori. You're assuming that you will be proven right. You believe this because you feel you've been right before. But that's not how science works. Again, apply your approach to medical science and you'll end up a with a handful of cures that may work, but several that don't and some with disastrous side effects.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 04:01
So what does your poop look like after you've been eating sun for a month?

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Quote: "So what does your poop look like after you've been eating sun for a month?"

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 04:50
Quote: "and I keep going each year, post something... then it's found. If I could find all of my posts"
Ya can find the future but cant find your old posts

Since most of your old posts concerning your theories were all started by you I suggest searching your own profile for previous threads.
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 07:05
Quote: "Quote: "I went through a mad phase where I went a bit Homer simpson/Thomas Edison on everyone."

What?"


There is an episode of the simpsons where homer bores everyone to tears with constant babbling about Thomas Edison.

I did this with Nikola Tesla. He is still one of my heros.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 13:51
This was the stupidest thread i could think to make


I can count to banana...
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Quote: "This was the stupidest thread i could think to make
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Can you back that up with a source from NASA?

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 14:47 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 14:57
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From what I understood your so-called 'proofs' were your own observations, your own interpretations and ideas. This is a hypothesis. It could well be found to be proven to be true later on. "


No my physics were found by telescopes, and microscopes, and other means some years after I figured them out using my push gravity mechanics. Another interesting thing is that Stephen Hawking used the basis of my theory in a TV program, and although it doesn't prove anything, it means that science is willing to go in the same direction as me in its way of thinking about the Universe.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 14:51 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 14:54
Quote: "Since most of your old posts concerning your theories were all started by you I suggest searching your own profile for previous threads. "


My posts were on many science sites over the years, the sites put some of my posts in their rubbish, and deleted some. I got banned for things that were later discovered. Like a huge bubble permeating from our Galaxy. They banned me for saying it, then they found it. My posts from 2004 have been deleted.

There are enough of my posts remaining to prove that I came up with all of this. I don't feel the need to find them. Science will end up with the same ideas as me in the end, which is all that I was trying to do... fix science.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 16:04
Pincho, your peculiar predicament reminds me of Cassandra from greek mythology, specifically the way she was a prophet but later cursed so that noone ever believed her predictions. Maybe you are cursed too and destined to live with this most tragic of fates forever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLkc1huIBCo
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 16:12 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 16:15
May I direct this thread to this post?
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=206638&b=2&msg=2470456#m2470456

Wolf -
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True! But massive things like dinosaurs actually existed, animals have feelings and are not machines, flight, spacetravel.
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Oh really?


[Damn this thread was a good read too ]

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Fixed link

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Quote: "Cassandra from greek mythology,"


An insane mythical redhead with a tragic story tied to it? Thats the stuff that gets my templesnake excited too.

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I'll give you an example. I have a flow gravity towards mass. Flow in = Gravity, flow out = Magnetism. Ok so the Earth's magnetic field is the out-flow, and the in-flow is gravity.

If you could shrink down to see the flow of particles you would get a flow of positrons overlapping electrons to become neutral, and then gravity would be a neutral difference in timing between the collisions. It's the same as addition of positive, and negative numbers

+ 1 + -1 + 1 + -1

If the + 1 happens first it is a bump force in a certain direction that is then neutralised by an electron very quickly at C. The speed of this neutralisation prevents any physical overload. It makes Gravity a weak force.

What this means is that the Earth has an orbit into a flow force of Gravity which is Neutralised at C. So the direction of the Earth's orbit has a neutralising bow shock. Therefore Gravity is a constant, because moving towards gravity compresses the particle distribution, and neutralises them more efficiently. Neutralisation is then examined at a smaller scale and it is that the particles are scaled down until they become a negative scale, and fold inside out. Folding particles at this scale reverses the flow from solid to hole. If a solid bumps another solid, then a hole travels in the opposite direction, and so Gravity is neutralised.

The same with the sun which has a bow shock, and the bow shock acts as a mirror of gravity flow forces.

So I posted a picture of this idea...

[img]null[/img]

And then Voyager 1 found this...
http://www.universetoday.com/86446/voyagers-find-giant-jacuzzi-like-bubbles-at-edge-of-solar-system/

Which is the bow shock bubbles. And the reason that my theory finds all of this is because I am using a flow gravity. My flow gravity accounts for most of our missing physics. So I can keep predicting the invisible forces quite accurately by sticking with these mechanics.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 16:45
Your problem is your vernacular. No one takes you seriously if you're saying things like "dark flow", "bump force" or "neutralising bow shock", because no one understand what any of that means and it makes you look like you have no experience at all.

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Quote: "Your problem is your vernacular. No one takes you seriously if you're saying things like "dark flow", "bump force" or "neutralising bow shock", because no one understand what any of that means and it makes you look like you have no experience at all."


dark in science means invisible with forces hard to establish.

Bump means for objects to collide, but the Quantum Physics for a collision is hard to define.

Bow shock is already used by science, and neutralising means to remove the polarity.

Most of these terms are already used by science, but in Quantum Physics you need new ways to define them. You need to go smaller.

I think that you should treat the words as they already have meaning.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 17:28
Quote: "that is then neutralised by an electron very quickly at C. The speed of this neutralisation prevents any physical overload."

Electrons cannot travel at the speed of light because they have mass.
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 17:36 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 17:38
Quote: "Electrons cannot travel at the speed of light because they have mass."


They neutralise their neighbour by overlap. You have two objects moving in opposite directions you can half the speed. And also, the mass of the electron is determined by bending particles around the electron. In my theory you bend towards a hole, so mass is not mass in my theory it is holes. Therefore an electron would have negative mass which science would call mass. This reversal of mass is also used to reverse the cosmological constant. A lot of the time you cannot compare my theory to established rules of mass. So using some scientific terms to argue against my physics only suggests that science has screwed up in some way.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 17:39 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 17:41
Quote: "So the direction of the Earth's orbit has a neutralising bow shock."

A bow shock, also called a detached shock, is a curved, stationary shock wave that is found in supersonic flow past a finite body. Unlike an oblique shock, the bow shock is not necessarily attached to the tip of the body. Oblique shock angles are limited in formation and are based on the flow deflection angle, upstream Mach number.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_shock_(aerodynamics)

I'm sorry, but the earth can't have a bow shock because it's in space. You need atmosphere for a bow shock to occur.

So what the hell is a "neutralizing" bow shock...

Quote: "bump force"



Quote: "dark flow"

Dark flow is an astrophysical term describing a possible non-random component of the peculiar velocity of galaxy clusters. The actual measured velocity is the sum of the velocity predicted by Hubble's Law plus a possible small and unexplained (or dark) velocity flowing in a common direction. The latest data from the Planck satellite shows no evidence of "dark flow".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_flow

Basically, what you are saying is gibberish, and BiggAdd sums it up nicely with this quote of his:
Quote: "Without proof, your hypothesis has equal weight to "The Universes according to BiggAdd"

Basically, as explained in The Universe according to BiggAdd, things happen because of the inter-dimensional Geese overlords, who are a bit fidgety and don't have much to do.
The Geese use modern interpretative dance and kidney beans flicked through the holes of sliced swiss cheese to shape the known Universe.

You are right, because the way science has spoon fed us over the years, I can't believe I have to supply proof to the blindingly obvious fact that the Universe according to BiggAdd is true.
I ran a computer simulation I made in DBC, and the universe formed the shape of a goose tucking into a big lump of swiss cheese. So I'm obviously correct.

Also, because we know geese exist, then its backwards, or not backwards. So maths is stupid and not at the same time. Therefore triangle custard.

I think I might publish my results into the big book of crazy nonsense. I'll see if I can put a word in for you too! I know the publisher (He's called the internet)."


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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 17:44 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 17:48
I can see that you will argue even established science....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_shock

And do you really think that my theory has to agree with all of science? If it did.. it would be the standard model, and nothing would have changed.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 17:48
I'll become internet famous when I invent a device which allows you to bow-shock someones face over TGC forums...

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Quote: "I'll become internet famous when I invent a device which allows you to bow-shock someones face over TGC forums..."


Thats going to give cybersex a lot more punch.

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Dear sir, your theory simply says that the standard model is incorrect. And therefore your theory must be wrong. Just because your theory matches (a bit) with a few things scientists discovered, doesn't mean that your theory is actually working.

Many many and great scientists have worked on the current model of the universe. And that model is working just fine. And then suddenly you jump in and say that it is incorrect and that your model of the universe (wich is incomplete BTW) is right. And you expect from everyone to believe you??

It has already been proven that gravity = energy + momentum. And not the result of holes or anything.

Anyway, please don't take this as an assault, cause I'm not trying to be rude here

Norion.

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LOL, This thread is great.

Quote: "Dear sir, your theory simply says that the standard model is incorrect."


Every time I ever read something that begins with "dear sir" My internal monologue switches to Calculon's voice for the entire piece.

does anyone elses mind do this? -could it perhaps be considered some kind of super power?

I'm not a complete idiot -- Some parts are just missing.
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Quote: "Every time I ever read something that begins with "dear sir" My internal monologue switches to Calculon's voice for the entire piece."

It makes me read in a Victorian gentleman's voice, which made this youtube comment I stumbled upon even funnier: "Dear sir, you are a dumbass."
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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 12:47
Dear Sir, Pincho has always said many things.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 13:45 Edited at: 12th Jul 2013 14:01
Quote: "It has already been proven that gravity = energy + momentum. And not the result of holes or anything."


Like I said before, science is gradually changing to my idea. There are a few teams now working on Gravity flowing into holes, and a few theories of atoms containing holes. These teams are being published by scientific journals. It is inevitable that science ends up with the correct theory of the Universe. My theory is the correct theory, so it is inevitable that science ends up with my theory, and a story of the guy who tried to make it happen, and got banned from all of the science sites.

Each week, a new part of my theory is discovered. This week it is the 4 leaf clover tail flowing from the sun out into the solar system. I have a 3 tail flow from my model, but it twists, so if you look along the twist you may see an extra tail because of the twist. The tail from the sun is the opposite to a bow shock, and corrects gravity from the back. When space has a lower density at the front the tail moves to the back. Because the out-flow is the magnetic field from the sun, and Earth, the tail shows that the magnetic field has switched sides. The Earth, and the Sun show signs of the magnetic polarity switching sides. So when you put my theory of the gravity flow together with observations you get the answer to why the polarity of the magnetic fields is switching sides.

It is inevitable that science will end up with my theory... because it is the right theory, and science can't ignore all of the evidence forever.

https://www.simonsfoundation.org/features/science-news/signs-of-a-stranger-deeper-side-to-natures-building-blocks/

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/space/stories/our-solar-system-has-a-tail-and-its-shaped-like-a-4-leaf-clover

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