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Megaton Cat
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I was thinking of buying one, and went to my local book store. Unfortunatly they don't have any that that I'm looking for. Well they an advanced modelling & animation and one on scenes but thats pretty much it. I was wondering if anyone knew some handy books for beginers on modeling & animation. That would be really great,

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QuothTheRaven
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I've bought 3 3ds max books and they haven't helped me learn anything. It's online tutorials you want.

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AlecM
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maybe you just bought bad books? There are 2 good paul steed books i can reccomend. The first is "Modelling a Character in 3dsmax" and the second is "Animating Real-Time Game Characters"

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I got both these books. They are pretty good, especialy Animating there i learned alot. Great one!
The problem with Modelling a Character in 3dsmax is that its aimed at this one character represented in the book. Sure there are some usefull tips and tricks but it should have contianed more diffrent approches on modeling. The book should have been namned Modelling this specific character in 3dsmax. Now i shall not complain more.

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Quote: "he first is "Modelling a Character in 3dsmax" and the second is "Animating Real-Time Game Characters"
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umm...couldnt they just make that into one book?
but I'll have a look anyway, thank you.

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Only if you wanted a 1000 page book that costs $90

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k, i ll check it out anyway, thanks.
Any all-around books someone else can recommend?

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Modeling a character in 3ds Max by Paul Steed is a good book a step by step book

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pauls books might be good for beginners and those who don't want to be serious about modelling, but they're layn out badly and setup wrong to be things to use to actually learn from.

They're more a case of schooling art improvments.
personally what i'd recommened is learning the tools and number of general techniques. That way your better armed from everything.

Trust me, you can get 10 books on 3D Max that cover 10 different techniques in detail, but you'd still be left with 10 techniques oftenly using the exact same tools.
Your knowlage doesn't truely grow, only your specifics for adjustments to things.

In otherwords, there is a helpfile for a reason, and helpfile tutorials for a reason ... and they're designed one hell of alot better by actual teaching professionals to enlarge your knowlage on the product rather than give you set paths.

but hey each to thier own


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Anyone else read a load of crap like that before? Reading is reading. I dont think anyone reads a tutorial book and then move on to only be able to model those things. At some point a person has to make an internal mental leap. Not really that big or special either. Pauls book is written very well, he presents techniques in the form of 1 large tutorial. Its not like those who read that book are only able to model chicks with big tits and cybernetic implants. Reading a book with many good techniques doesn't limit you.

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mmmmmmnoooo Raven is right, as usual.

www.3dcafe.com has taught me basically everything I know about max. Google is far faster than any index or table of contents.

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Quote: "pauls books might be good for beginners and those who don't want to be serious about modelling, but they're layn out badly and setup wrong to be things to use to actually learn from.

They're more a case of schooling art improvments"


good point raven, but never hurts too look.

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oh no, it's certainly worth a glance ... but i wouldn't say it's worth the $40 that Paul's publisher sells it for.
has some good stuff i'm just not recommeneding it for anyone who wants to continue in the field is all

there is a new one by Fracais Jaques which should be good, need to find it but i don't think it's in english yet


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Quote: "In otherwords, there is a helpfile for a reason, and helpfile tutorials for a reason ... and they're designed one hell of alot better by actual teaching professionals to enlarge your knowlage on the product rather than give you set paths."


They don't teach you all the techniques though and unfortunately there isn't a whole lot on low-polygon modelling which a lot of us here do.


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James, have you even read the book? Now i understand if people dont like the way its layed out but i dont think its bad at all.

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yes I read the book I own it.

only problem i had is the way he uses the geo spheres and how he made the boot by the hi-poly model he reduced when he could of save his self the trouble just keep it low poly.

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well, I have looked into Modelling a Character in 3dsmax. Yes its a shame it's only one character...I would want to learn how to modell robots perhaps...but I'll try to get it anyway, thanks.

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