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Geek Culture / I promise not to debate religion on these forums anymore...

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HZence
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Posted: 30th Dec 2003 06:25
You can leave that to my forums:

http://mindset1.proboards24.com/

I brought mindset back from the dead. I have plans to get the ACTUAL SITE (not just the forums) up within the week. If anyone cares to join and take out their religious rage (I have so much of it! Lol) by all means, do so.

((( mindset 4 ever )))




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JoelJ
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Posted: 30th Dec 2003 07:22
thats cool...i personally hate religious debate...because eveyone's religion is the "true" faith, its useless.

HZence
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Nah, I've been in a few of those. But most of the debates I have are constructive, the problems I have is with those fundamentalist Christians who just know they're right and don't have anything else to say about it.


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I just stick with my beliefs, and thats good for me


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Ian T
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'the problems I have is with those fundamentalist Christians who just know they're right and don't have anything else to say about it.'

And the fundamentalist other religions, and the athiests who are convinced they are superior, and the agnostics who don't even really care, and the humanists who think everyone else deserves to die, and the technocrats who roll their eyes at anything they deem as superstitious even if it follows with realized evidence... no matter what their avowed (lack of) religion is, all people can play that part

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JoelJ
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hide mouse

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dang...

most EVERYONE thinks they are better when it comes to their religion and faith.

HZence
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furthermore, one reason I tend to debate religion so much is because...it's just plain fun.


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@Mouse

"and the humanists who think everyone else deserves to die"



Have you really met humanists that thought that? If you did thats hysterical(I'm not picking on humanists or anything its just that, if I recall correctly, humanists are suppose to value human life making the above opinion, if it was indeed held by a humanist, pretty ironic and I find irony humorous.)
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That's why I think it was a joke...lol...


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"You know what John, i think you need to get on your knees and get Jesus's love all over your face.
It did me good "


Doesn't he mean:

"I want to get down on my hands and knees and please Jesus, I wan't to feel Jesus all over my face"
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i am the same as RPGamer

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You guys are starting up again...

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Quote: "the problems I have is with those fundamentalist Christians who just know they're right and don't have anything else to say about it."
Then what the point? The whole purpose (and fun part) of Religeous debates is the exchange of information, tring to get the other party to except your beliefs, and attempt to gain common ground. The most they are hard pressed on their beliefs, the more fun it is. It's all about comunication and trying to point out that when you get right down to it, we all have the basic beliefs and ideas, it's just getting past all the fronts we've set up to rationalize it to ourselfs.

At a very basic level, sain people know that killing, raping, and stealing is just plain wrong, but to explain why can be very difficult. The western religions (Chirstains, Jews, and Muslims; they all share the same Old Testiment) believe that God told them these things are wrong. Eastern religions believe that Karma will cause what ever action you do to other will be done to you. Athiests have the hardest time with the question, most simple say it's a good idea or it the law, niether worked for me (though I'm not Athiest, I do think alot). My reason for thinking these things wrong is because it goes against others wills. A person should be allowed to make his/her own choices when dealing with themselfs. That's why murder is bad in my book but suiside is acceptable.


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Megaton Cat
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SEE YOU ARE DOING IT AGAIN!!!!
What the hell is wrong with you stupid kids? Can you not go for one day and not debate about religion, politics, or exchange flames with Raven about Nvidia and ATI?
What happened to just broswing the forums and chatting?
Or myabe some of you should do some actual coding?

Arrow
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I consider this chatting, in fact I like arguing about politics and religion (the Raven thing is over rated, I haven't seen a flamewar with him in it in a long time). In my spare time I thing about morals and the origins of the universe, that or D&D campains, video games and/or anime. I talk with my good friends about ethics and politics, that or D&D campains, video games and/or anime. If you don't like politic or thread that invole 'thinking' them simply do bother reading it, how hard can it be?


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Posted: 30th Dec 2003 18:17
Well he says he doesn't want to talk about it anymore...why are you still doing it?

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Because I want to.


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Ian T
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Quote: "Have you really met humanists that thought that? If you did thats hysterical(I'm not picking on humanists or anything its just that, if I recall correctly, humanists are suppose to value human life making the above opinion, if it was indeed held by a humanist, pretty ironic and I find irony humorous.)

----

That's why I think it was a joke...lol..."


No it wasn't a joke. Humanists are generally athiest evolutionists. They think that scientific enhancment of the human is the way to the future, and they have mind-numbingly superior mindset towards anyone who is not athiest, evolutionist, and believes every single thing mainstream science puts out. My beliefs counter theirs in almost every way possible.

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Quote: " consider this chatting, in fact I like arguing about politics..."


politics eh...

hmm, maybe i should put in a political debate board...heh...


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Posted: 30th Dec 2003 22:21
The Christian fundamentalists are obviously justified because God exists...

Ian T
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Wow, that made sense

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Arrow should be right along soon to flame you.

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yea, when they said they would stop.

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HZense said he would stop and he did.

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HZence
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Yeah seriously, stop debating religion in my anti-religion debating thread already.

If anyone cares, the ACTUAL website (not just the forums) is up...

www.mindset1.com

Enjoy


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Megaton Cat
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Let's debate goldfish instead.

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I think they taste like chicken.

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@Mouse

" Humanists are generally athiest evolutionists. They think that scientific enhancment of the human is the way to the future, and they have mind-numbingly superior mindset towards anyone who is not athiest, evolutionist, and believes every single thing mainstream science puts out."

There is nothing inherit to humanism that would require one to be an atheist evolutionist positivist. Infact, it is quite possible to be a humanist and a Christian.

Quote: "Christian Humanism is defined by Webster's Third New International Dictionary as "a philosophy advocating the self- fulfillment of man within the framework of Christian principles." This more human-oriented faith is largely a product of the Renaissance and is a part of what made up Renaissance humanism.
"


http://www.jcn.com/humanism.html

I'm not entirely sure where you got the idea that humanism is strictly the domain of atheists but it is far more broader than you think.
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gold fish are cute kinda like penguins

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@Divide By Zero

"One seems to have taken the opportunity to demonstrate an abundance of obscure and overly elaborate implementation of language in ones sentence structure and wording."

Like what?
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If I tried to stick to 3 or 4 letter words I would have to write whole sentences just to describe something that could be expressed in a single word. And besides you use words bigger than four letters so why can't I.
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Raven must be on vacation.

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