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Major Payn
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I am using milkshape and have a really cool gun which I have skined. I tried exporting as 3ds but it does not export the skin. I just whant to know how you can export it with its skin. Pleas help I spent 2 hours skinning this model for my game and not its just a white peice of crap.

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move the textures with the exported model to a folder in your game or leave in the top folder of your game.
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is there a way to export the skined model to dark basic media viewer. I will be using the gun alot in future projects so I whant it to be there instead.

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wha? save the *.x file into the folder that the media viewer uses? i dont konw what you mean by media viewer...do you mean the Dark Matter viewer?

and it textured model, not skinned, jsyk

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I mean the media viewer that comes with DBC if you go to media>media viewer the model I am using is skined I used a photo of a real gun and put it onto my model. so I dont think you can say it is just textured. I have tried exporting it into DBC media files but it does not export the skin.

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whoops my mistake DBC calls it media browser not media viewer. Anyways that is were I whant my gun to be so I can simply add it to any future projects. But I whant the skin on it to. I cant just send the texture to DBC because it is photo. I used milkshapes texure coordinator to pain pieces of the photo onto certain peices of the gun.

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i dont have the media viewer, i got ripped off!

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do you have dark basic light? anyway can someone please help me My gun is so cool I would hate to see it go to waste.

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no, i bought it off ebay a while ago.

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I bought my copy off of ebay to. got it of $5.00. pretty good deal.

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10 including shipping and hadling now if i could get pro for that much...

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I saw pro on ebay for $30.00 but it was in the uk and I live in america so the shipping would have been alot. could someone please answer my questions about the models. I must use the model hulk no like blank models. hulk smash dark basic for blank model. hulk getting angry.

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Try moving model and texture in same folder with texture extension in ".bmp" format. Use only load object ".3ds",1 and automatically loads 3d model with texture.


or using texture command to apply texture as ".jpg",".bmp",".tga", etc...
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I is not really a texture. I had a picture of a real gun then I used milkshape to apply pieces of the texture onto the model I skinned it as you could say. I dont think DBC will skin it the way I had it if I just use the texture object command. I need someway to export the model with textures on it ino dbc.

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how many photos are you using to texture model ?
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I am using 1 photo but I used different parts of the photo for different parts of the gun I tried exporting directly into my project folder but the model still appears blank. How do I post images? I was going to put a picture of the model up but dont know how to post them.

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you have to upload them

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can you even export models with skins into dbc. I have tried alot of different things and it dont work. if you cant export models with skins then dbc sucks.

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Major Payn what's email adress ?
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[email protected]

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why do you need my email adress.

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Posted: 31st Dec 2003 03:40 Edited at: 31st Dec 2003 04:20
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about email it doesn't matter, I already did you an example:

You can donwload from here:
http://galeon.com/rsniper/temp/Load.zip
(Ak47 with 2 ways to load texture)


Anyone it's free for use or modify this 3d model. It's only a low-poly sample (172 polys)

I hope helped you
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HAHA now he's going to email you a trojan that will totally take over your computer and THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO about it!!!
j/k

maybe, he is a stalker and with your email address, he can trace you down...think about it...do you know what, dont think about it.

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but how did you do it. thats what I would like to know. I mean how do you get the model into dbc with textures intact. plust when I click on the link you gave me it comes up with some non english site I dont know what it says . Could you take me through the process of exporting it into dbc.

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Simply export the model from the program you created it in, into *.3DS then, put that model whereever you're going to use it with your project, then, save the textures ( "skins" as you keep calling it ) and place them in exactly the same folder as the model.

Now, when loading the model, use Load Object "whatever.3DS",1

And that will load the model with the textures ( "skins" ) applied and ready to go.

That's all you have to do

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I will try that but I dont think it will work right because I used a special tool in milkshape to skin the model. but I will try.

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I am not too familiar with MilkShape, but is there an option to save the texture?

If there is, save it as a *.bmp file, then place it into the directory with the model and load it.

That *should* work fine.

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I have encountered a problem I saved the photo I am using to "my pictures" and when I go to copy picture it lets me copy to dark basic but my dark basic file that has my model does not show up to copy to. so I cant copy it to the same folder.

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Um... that's odd. Did you hide the folder?

Just right-click >> Copy then go to where your folder is and right-click >> Paste and it should be there.

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wow I think I got it kind of anyway. I used the texture object command. and dark basic almost perfectly lined up the texture with the object. Unfortunatly a few areas the texture didnt line up as good as it was in milkshap but as soon as I scale it down to the size it will be for my FPS those seems shouldnt be to noticeable. Thank you alot Jessticular.

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OK, you used the MS3D Texture Cordinator. If there is an option, save the UV map, then texture the model with that.

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Yeah, thanks RPGamer, that's what I was getting at when i said "save the texture".

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I am not sure if there is a way to save the uv map I will ask the milkshape forum. Dark basic makes this way to hard

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I found the folder to paste in but when I rightclick on the folder it gives no option to paste.

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Dark Basic doesnt make it hard, you inablility to use Milkshape 3D Does JK I NEVER use the texture cordinator, do a google search for Lithunwrap, use that to UV map objects.

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I found lithunwrap and downloaded it but It wont let me save or export with the demo so I cant see if it works. Does it work good? I dont know if I whant to pay $30 dollars for a UV mapping tool if I dont even know if it works good. I didnt even spend that much for darkbasic .

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milkshape 3d automatically saves the uv data when you export it if you have used the texture coordinator. try exporting to .x instead of .3ds, i've never had good experiences using .3ds, and besides i don't think you can save animation data with 3ds.
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I tried exporting to .x but It dont work it gives several options to export including "directx retained mode,directx skin and bones, and two jt game options" I I tried direcx retained mode and directx skin and bones and it did not work.

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From memory, i think you need to use the JT DirectX Exporter.

But, don't hold me to my words...

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Have any of yall tried lithunwrap I tried the demo but it dont let me save or export in the demo. so does lithunwrap work good? and what are uv maps?

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