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Sph!nx
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Posted: 13th Nov 2023 14:54
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Hello everybody,

I've haven't been coding with AGK:S for a few years and want to get back into it. My idea is to make a simple retro FPS like wolfenstein/Doom. In the past I tried to make 3D placement editors but those project were always very huge and I do not wish do that anymore.

How would you approach the creation of 3D levels and what tools are being used nowadays?

All the input is greatly appreciated!!

Thanks!
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Aidan
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Posted: 13th Nov 2023 18:19 Edited at: 13th Nov 2023 18:23
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Have a look into maze backtracking algorithms then can convert the results into 3D.

Search "maze" on here, you will find that algorithm.

After all doom and such like is a glorified maze, been modified after the algorithm with doors / other openings / secret walls, widening spaces with unwanted walls etc

Hope that helps to get you at least started.

Can't wait to see what you come up with

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Sph!nx
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Posted: 13th Nov 2023 18:30
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Thanks Aidan!

I will take a look at the maze algorithms, although I'd like to build it up from completely premade objects and such.
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Aidan
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Posted: 13th Nov 2023 18:46
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After searching "maze" you will have to let us know which thread worked for you for a doom remake. There is quite a few



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blink0k
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Posted: 13th Nov 2023 19:31
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This is a simple doom style game with source code. It's a start I guess.
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Aidan
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Posted: 13th Nov 2023 19:39
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Awesome, in built levels are the best.doing it that way, you can place your different objects what ever value you have in the hard coded area.

Nice find

Good luck
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PSY
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Posted: 15th Nov 2023 00:03 Edited at: 15th Nov 2023 00:06
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Depends on the game/level.
Stuff like mazes can even be done with a simple .txt file.

Years ago, I created a 3D level editor in Blitz3D to play around with a dungeon crawler idea.
The walls, columns, ceilings, floors and doors are just cubes with some textures I found online to test, so nothing fancy there...
Here's a video of some pre-alpha stuff. I didn't pursue it any further because Blitz3D was already too old at that point.
This is not fullscreen as Blitz3D doesn't run in Exclusive FS mode on Win10 w/o issues, or at all.



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Sph!nx
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Posted: 15th Nov 2023 14:18
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Wow, thanks for all the replies!!

In the past I've used a program called Mapscape, a program similar to Valve's editor. I'm not sure if that program is still viable. Does anyone still use it? Are there similar programs?
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Posted: 15th Nov 2023 16:23
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There's a Mapscape made with Darkbasic, but it was discontinued about 10 years ago.


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Aidan
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Posted: 17th Nov 2023 18:14 Edited at: 17th Nov 2023 18:17
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An idea has come to my head for when I can get a laptop for this type of thing, will come in handy, I'm sure dungeons and dragon/doom/Wolfenstein/role play adventure games are on some of our wish list to create, this will bring the foundation of the map, together with slopes / stairs to higher stories of a building / cave

Cheers for the inspirational idea

Ummm let me have a think
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Posted: 20th Nov 2023 16:45
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To bad mapscape is discontinued. Anyone still use it?

Anyone has experience in using models with child objects as maps? What editors would be best for that?
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Posted: 20th Nov 2023 18:29 Edited at: 20th Nov 2023 18:30
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This mapscape doesn't seem to be discontinued?
http://www.evolved-software.com/mapscape/news
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Sph!nx
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Posted: 20th Nov 2023 21:15
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Wow thanks, qweQua!
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Aidan
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Posted: 20th Nov 2023 21:49
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Maybe make our own and be the next mapscape
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Sph!nx
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2023 17:56
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I found one with great potential. It appears I already own it, but I forgot!

It's called Crocotile 3D and is aimed at retro games!

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1244040/Crocotile_3D/

To Admin:
This is not meant as advertisement, I just think this is great for this comminity. If it breaks the rules them I am sorry.
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