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Zaxxan
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Posted: 7th Mar 2024 11:59 Edited at: 7th Mar 2024 12:04
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I've been trying the new AGKRepo for the last fews days and I have finally managed to complete the build process and have a shiny new version of Studio! I have even added a new menu command to go to the online commands web page. Now to make even more changes to the IDE!



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Zaxxan,
Awesome, will this solve my problem for needing iOS SDK 17+?
Also, does this mean I will have to maintain my own versions from here on forward?

So many question and looking for answers.
Thanks for all the help you can offer.

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Posted: 7th Mar 2024 13:53 Edited at: 8th Mar 2024 04:47
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It's quite an involved process and only for the Windows version at the moment. No you won't have to maintain your own versions, I would wait for TGC to release an update for iOS.

The repo is there so the community can actively participate in the future of AppGameKit Studio. I've really enjoyed working through the build process and solving the issues that I have encountered (with TGC's support).

My main aim is to improve the editor so that it has some of the features of Classic, F1 online help, customisation of the GUI colours etc. I've already made some progress with these changes
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Posted: 8th Mar 2024 12:26 Edited at: 8th Mar 2024 18:04
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I've had a go at updating the target API to 34 today. Exported OK and uploaded to play console OK, now in review but looks promising.

Google have approved the release so great to be targeting API 34 well before the August dead line.



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Zaxxan wrote: "I've been trying the new AGKRepo for the last fews days and I have finally managed to complete the build process and have a shiny new version of Studio! I have even added a new menu command to go to the online commands web page. Now to make even more changes to the IDE!"


Are the instructions on the repository complete to build Studio or did you had to do some guessing and work around things?
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Posted: 8th Mar 2024 21:26 Edited at: 8th Mar 2024 21:34
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The repo is still under construction so the instructions are incomplete, there are files missing and some files were there but invalid. The build process also failed at quite a few steps due to incorrect paths etc. I've just worked through it step by step to get a complete build. I updated the code to target API 34 just to see how it is achieved. I've been passing on my findings to Lee.

Everything seems to be working so far.

The main stumbling block for me was that according to the instructions you have to use Android Studio Chipmunk and Gradle 8.0 but the projects wouldn't compile due to Chipmunk only supporting upto Gradle 7.3.3. I tried newer versions of Studio that supported Gradel 8.0 but the apps then kept crashing. I did a lot of reading on this and in the end I kept the target at 34 but rolled back the Gradle version to 7.2.1. Everything then compiled and Google accepted my app as targeting API34.

I don't fully understand the implications of going back to Gradle 7.2.1 but everything seems to be working ok.
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Posted: 12th Mar 2024 18:38 Edited at: 12th Mar 2024 19:03
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Lee has made the required changes to the Repo for the Windows version of AppGameKit Studio and provided you follow the readme included in the Repo it should successfully build. I would advise to install Github Desktop and Clone the repository and then select LFS when prompted otherwise the large files will not be downloaded.

https://github.com/TheGameCreators/AGKRepo

If anyone has any issues let me know as I may be able to help.

Lee has asked if there are any Mac or Linux users who are willing to help test the Repo, if so it's probably best to email him. (Mac is being added now, Linux later on)
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Posted: 12th Mar 2024 19:39 Edited at: 12th Mar 2024 19:40
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This is great progress, thank you. I will dig more into this when I have the opportunity, but what I'm not still quite clear on including after checking the repository and the newsletter...

Does this new repository include the totality of AppGameKit (including Tier 1)? The biggest stumbling block for patching and updating AppGameKit from the original repository is that it only made Tier 2 components accessible for modification. So any changes made couldn't really be worked back into AppGameKit BASIC without TGC's intervention, thus really defeating the simplicity and convenience. If we can now update Tier 2 and compile the AppGameKit Interpreter / BASIC that is awesome.
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Posted: 12th Mar 2024 20:22 Edited at: 12th Mar 2024 20:33
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The repository includes tier 1. To have access to the source code like this is amazing. I have just exported an app using the latest android API 35 RC1 so I feel that the worry about complying with google store rules has been taken away. Lee has been really helpful and obviously wants the Repo to work and encourage contributions.
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Has anyone else tried the Repo? If anyone has although it's looking doubtful by the so few posts

Has anyone had any problems with Gradle 8.0 in Android Studio Chipmunk? Or the AGKplayer crashing when built using Gradle 8?

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@zaxxan: I have not tried it but plan to do so in the next 1-2 weeks. I also have a m2 Mac. After I was successful with Windows, I will give it a try on MacOS. Would love to continue using it with my language.
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And thanks for the details and help to get the docs in order.
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Posted: 16th Mar 2024 07:45 Edited at: 16th Mar 2024 08:42
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No problem at all, the more people that get involved in the repo the better the chance of it being successful.

I now have a Windows version that Targets API 34 using Gradle 8.1.1, everything seems to be working now.

Let me know how you go on, the issues I encountered with the windows repo were, missing folder structures, not downloading the large images, ENV variables, missing files, incorrect paths etc. so the Mac version may have similar issues.

Also, the recommended Android Studio Chipmunk version is not compatible with Gradle 8.0 which is what the repo uses. I ended up using the latest version, Android Studio Iguana.

One other thing I have just remembered is that the AGKBuild.sln looks for a keystore file which was created using an alias of 'tgc' so when you create the keystore file call it keystore.keystore with an alias of 'tgc' and your own password or alternatively edit the AGKBuild.sln and change the 'tgc' to your own alias. I used Android Studio to create the keystore file.
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@Zaxxan: Which Platforms and extra stuff did you install for Visual Studio 2022?
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Posted: 17th Mar 2024 21:23 Edited at: 18th Mar 2024 10:58
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Hi Mike, I just selected C++ and used the default settings.
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Which specific workload is needed on visual studio community installation? Is it the "desktop development with c++" or do you have to choose the mobile one that details windows within the description? Bit confusing as the build would be for windows desktop...but then used to deploy to mobile. The mobile option details android sdk setup within(no version listed) but then Lee's instructions imply installing the android sdk 33.03 afterwards....or do we install both? I only want the minimum of anything, storage space isn't great plus I am dl'ing via a mobile device so don't particularly want to wait forever.

Also do we select the option to remove out of support components?
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Posted: 18th Mar 2024 19:28 Edited at: 18th Mar 2024 19:38
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Hi James,

Just choose the Desktop Development with C++ (the mobile side is catered for via Android Studio). When installing Visual Studio I didn't change any of the options.

You select the SDK 33.0.3 via the SDK manager (SDK Tools) in Android Studio. I didn't remove any out of date components.

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Posted: 29th Mar 2024 21:29 Edited at: 29th Mar 2024 21:31
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I've opened a new branch called 'Zaxxan' on the Repo which targets API 34 (Gradle 8.2.2). If anyone wants to give it a try I have added a few additional notes to the readme. All you need to do is download it using GitHub Desktop with LFS enabled, copy the external, builds and Sharing folders into the AGK-Builds folder and copy your keystore.keystore file into the signing folder. When creating your key (use android studio) use the alias tgc

The HTML5 export currently does not work as the files are missing from the main branch. I have notified Lee about this.

If other users can confirm it works ok I will do a pull request.
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This is awesome work zaxxan. I don't have time right now but as soon as i do i'll give this a go. I wonder how you could monetize this?
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zaxxan wrote: "If other users can confirm it works ok I will do a pull request."


I thought the official repo is stil not open for contributions.
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I know it says that on the Repo but I have been in contact with Lee for several weeks ironing out issues with the build process and Lee agrees that it would be a good idea to target the latest API. Obviously if I do a pull request he doesn't have to accept it!

He is still looking for someone to test the Mac build process I believe.
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@blink0k I don't think you could monetize it as it would be against the licence. TGC still own the copyright.

I'm working on the Repo for a few reasons:

1. To understand how AppGameKit is put together with a view to fix bugs and add new features in the future.

2. Modify the IDE so that it can do the things I miss in Classic

3. To help keep AppGameKit as up-to-date as possible.

There seems to be complications with supporting multiple platforms though for example the HTML5 files appear to be generated during the Linux build and then copied into a shared folder and then used by the Windows build (at least that's what I think happens) as a Windows user I am unable to generate these files, so as a temporary solution I have copied these files from the current retail version.
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Will they release a binary for this as there seems to be a lot to take on board. Something ready made would be helpful.
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does the new 2024 version support utf8 in ide?
All different language is being shown as "???"
going back to agk2 does not have this issue?
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@Pfaber1, the binary is basically the retail version which was updated a few days ago.

If you follow the instructions in the Repro readme it is now a fairly straightforward process and is quite satisfying when you complete it.

Give it a try, I can always talk you through it if you get stuck
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I see and I will have a try later , it is something I want to know how to do anyway.
Nice to think I'll be able to still use AppGameKit Studio for a long time yet. It is a shame they are not still working on it but I guess it is a finished product.
I do look at alternatives to see what is happening but as of yet AppGameKit Studio is the best option for me .
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Whilst looking at the IDE code I found that there was half finished code for a Hue based system to adjust the GUI colours. Seeing as I dislike the random seed generator so much I decided to complete the code and get it working. It's way better than the random seed generator and is definitely a better solution in my opinion.

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nice, zaxxan. and i agree it's an improvement over the random generator.

so, am i correct that any work we do like this gets submitted and lee will decide whether or not to add it for the rest of us to enjoy as an official update?
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Yes, that's correct.

I have already submitted a branch which fixed a few things in the editor. Probably the most important fix was that the minimum API setting in the android export didn't work correctly, if you set a minimum API which was over 29 then it defaulted to 16. This is now fixed. Also, added a link to the AppGameKit Studio Documentation page to the help menu. These fixes have now been merged to the main branch. The changes to target API 34 is also part of the main branch now.

I'm fixing things in the editor that I don't like too much.

Any changes I make that I think will be an improvement for everyone will be submitted at some point.
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Awesome work Zax!
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I've made the updated IDE.exe available on my AGKRepo fork if anyone wants to give it a try, feedback welcome.

When downloading Windows Defender flags that the file is infected with a virus, it does this with the main repo ide.exe and the ide from the update from last August and previous updates. I'm assuming it's a false positive but use at your own risk!

Update: Lee has confirmed that the virus is a false positive.

https://github.com/Zaxxan/AGKRepoFork/blob/main/AGK/AgkIde/Final/Ide.exe

Note: you have to backup and then delete your agkide.pref located in your user folder i.e. C:\Users\yourname\AppData\Local\AGKApps\TheGameCreators\Ide before using

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Can we download the new versions inside the tgc account-products as final binary? I do not own the steam version, got it directly from tgc.
installing all the GitHub stuff is a lot of hassle for me and perhaps the others.
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I thought that TGC provided steam keys for people who purchased the TGC version. Have a look on your TGC account to see if there is a product key available.
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Dawn, you are right ;- I never looked there.. installing right now!
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The Hue Style changes I have made to the IDE have now been merged into the main repo. So hopefully should be in the next update whenever that is. Lee has said there will be 4 updates a year.
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Quote: "I've made the updated IDE.exe available on my AGKRepo fork if anyone wants to give it a try, feedback welcome."


Hi Zaxxan, thanks for the updates to AppGameKit Studio.

As a user of AppGameKit Studio here's a bit of feedback I'd like to offer please. Here are a few minor revisions which if implemented could give a real boost to user productivity, and hopefully it would be trivial to implement these because the existing infrastructure probably already exists within the IDE's source code:

1. The ability to assign keyboard shortcuts, or hotkeys, to additional IDE commands that are not currently listed in the Edit-->Preferences-->Keyboard Shortcuts setting window.
1.A. For example, "Debug:" and "Debug Step:" are currently included in Keyboard Shortcuts, but the closely related IDE commands "break", "continue", "step over" and "step out" are all excluded from hotkey mapping, even though these unsupported commands already exist in the debugger window as command buttons on the top row.
2.B. Another example: Although not listed in Keyboard Shortcuts, the hotkey <Ctrl + E> will toggle automated commenting to line(s) of code based on the current cursor position, by adding or removing "//~" to the line(s) of text. This and other unlisted hotkey combinations should/could ideally be exposed and listed as entries in the Keyboard Shortcuts section, allowing the user to customize the hotkey.
1.C There are many commands listed in the GUI drop-down menus, some with hotkeys and some without hotkeys, but many of these same commands are excluded from the Keyboard Shortcuts setting window (including even commands listed within the menus having existing hotkeys assigned). It would be ideal if every drop-down menu item could be listed in the Edit-->Preferences-->Keyboard Shortcuts setting window, and made assignable / editable for its hotkey.
1.D There is no hotkey for toggling bookmarks (the command "Bookmark toggle" from the pop-up context menu (right mouse button))

2. A command to navigate upward and downward to bookmarks. similar to the existing "Go to Line <Ctrl + L>" command. Perhaps <Alt + PgUp> and <Alt + PgDn> could be assigned to this pair of commands for "Go to previous bookmark" and "Go to next bookmark" respectively.

I hope this feedback is helpful, and if any or all of these could be implemented in a future version of AppGameKit Studio that would be great! Thanks.
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I don't tend to use short cuts as I can never remember what they are but I will certainly take a look to see if it's possible.

I've had a look at this this morning and it's a bit more involved than I thought it would be. I'll have ago at adding the Ctrl-E shortcut.
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It is nice to have the repo available. I may be joining you soon on offering updates to the source code.

For the last couple months I been trying to merge AppGameKit with OpenXR so we can create AppGameKit games that run natively
on the Meta Quest. I been looking at the code on the repo to learn how some of the obscure AppGameKit commands work that don't
have any documentation. (Like initexternal() which turns out doesn't work on android...) But I haven't tried to build the repo
yet. So far I have been able to get a AGK2 Tier II ouya template to run with OpenXR on the Meta quest and change the
background color through AppGameKit commands.

I think the issue maybe with shaders or maybe AppGameKit just doesn't want to render onto the OpenXR's swapchain images. I think
I reached the point I am going to have to build the repo and see what exactly is going on. I may need to try and implement
the agk initexternal() command for android. Android uses Open GL ES. The command only works with regular Open GL.

Anyway I hoping everything is there to build a new android tier 2 library. Looking at the code, it appears so.
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At the moment the repo doesn't appear to build the Tier 2 code.

Originally the Windows, Mac and Linux platforms would be built and then certain parts of the build for one platform would be shared with the build process for the other platforms. For example the Linux build is used to generate the HTML5 filles for the Windows and Mac versions. For now there is no way to generate the HTML files with the current Repo and this seems to be the case for the Tier 2 files.

If I were you I would get used to building the Repo so that you understand what's implemented and what isn't.
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I think I found it. Just edit the jnicompile.bat file in \AGK\libprojects\android_base with your NDK location (I used version 21.4.7075529, newer versions may not work. ) and run it. I built the library with no errors, but plenty of warnings.
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Hi, nice to see some IDE updates!
Its summer so my chance to check is more limited...

Umm one thing??
If I have more than 1 program loaded for editing in the new IDE,
If you switch programs the "Save" and "Save as" file button overwrites the last saved main.agc, even if you switched...
(Not good if you are not aware of what you are saving)(Very easy to overwrite your other program changes)(I already did it once and was lucky I had the other program open)
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Hi, nothing has changed in the IDE regarding saves. Can you check it on the August 23 update to see it that version does it as well? It may be a long standing bug.
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Quote: ""Save" and "Save as" file button overwrites the last saved main.agc"

just ran a quick test in 05.20 and previous version and i'm not seeing that (mis)behavior.
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Quote: "Umm one thing??
If I have more than 1 program loaded for editing in the new IDE,
If you switch programs the "Save" and "Save as" file button overwrites the last saved main.agc, even if you switched..."


I'm currently using AppGameKit Studio V2023.08.32 and thankfully I haven't run into any overwrite/save issues like that, but I did start feeling a bit nervous after reading that post! (If I had done overwritten files unaware)
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@ICERGB I think I see what you mean, if you have two projects open and select the first project as your current project and then select 'Save As' the dialog box opens and the path is still set to the last project that was loaded so it could be possible to save to the wrong project folder. I have tested this in the August 23 update and that does the the same thing so it looks like this has been an issue for quite some time if not always.

The Save seems to save the correct AGC though, it saves the correct main.agc to the correct project for example.
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anyone else finding the extract process of the agk_build files really slow. it takes several hours and I have fast PC. e.g. the AGK_build_shared and external files.
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Sorry ignore. I was using winrar instead of just doing normal .zip extract using default windows unzip, weird
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