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Mattman
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Posted: 5th Feb 2004 15:39
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For anyone who records and such, is there any reconmended equipment? I starting a recording studio in my basement for my band and am on a $600 budget.

Thanks for any info,
Matt

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Posted: 5th Feb 2004 15:53
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What and how many instruments do you and your band use?

Me, I'll sit and write this love song as I all too seldom do
build a little fire this midnight. It's good to be back home with you.
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indi
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Posted: 5th Feb 2004 16:01
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protools is a great peice of software and theres a freeware version.
http://www.digidesign.com/

sound forge is really nice peice of audio software but not so free.


cubase vst is the daddy of audio mixing but protools is not bad.


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Jeku
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Posted: 5th Feb 2004 19:10
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I use software called "Reason" for mixing my music. It's made by Propellerheads: http://www.propellerheads.se/

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http://www.automatongames.com/
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Eric T
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Posted: 5th Feb 2004 19:22
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600???, ya can't do it, no matter how much you try it ain't possible ... try adding a zero to 600 and you can try.

My studio, which is for Vocals, Guitar, Orechestral instrumnets, and piano, has cost 100,000 in the last 6 years.

First you need a Computer....fast computer with win 2k or up, mine i built, cost 1000$

then a sound card... Me i use a motu with the 80-24 console, 800$

Then you need Studio monitors, can't hear sh*t correctly without the monitors. I have a pair of Behringer Truth and a Alesis surround setup. When i bought it it totaled around 1600$

Then you need input like mics, I have 3 Sm-58, 1 SM-57, and alot othbers i can't rmemeber...(14 mics total, for various things..) cost around 3000$, but thats justa guess.

I have 3 amps, don't ask the names... i don't know them,.... but they are Phase linear... alot of money

then other various behringer equipment....

and foam.... a few 1000.

Basiicllly... 600$ ya can't do it...


PS actually Nuendo 2.0 is the daddy...

If i ain't here, i'm probably playing DOA2 Hardcore on the PS2
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Posted: 5th Feb 2004 19:55
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Mattman, is this a recording studio for just game music and effects or is it for actual real music music -if ya get me? 600 is a little low for anything other than a decent midi synth keyboard with track recording capabilities. You can do some great stuff like that for games but for a full blown music studio yo will need way more cash than 600 bucks - try adding 2 zeroes to get started.

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Mattman
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Posted: 5th Feb 2004 23:23 Edited at: 6th Feb 2004 23:25
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maybe i was a little off in my explanation. We are just starting out with a 4 - track, no big full recording studio just wanted to know if you knew any good / cheap stuff. We aren't gonna buy most stuff retail, thats what ebay is for

We are gonna have bass, 2-3 guitars, drums, vocals, and keyboard

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Posted: 6th Feb 2004 00:35
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If your in American goto Guitar World. My brother got a recorder studio set (a big box with a screen & CD burner) for $500


http://transworld.dbspot.com/
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Posted: 6th Feb 2004 01:22
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well if you have the instruments already and want to record them live then you can get away with a mixer and a simple tape deck to record. If you are looking for a more produced sound then you don't really have enough money for a decent digital track recorder but could find a decent analog (tape) track recorder, and some effects.

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QuothTheRaven
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Posted: 6th Feb 2004 01:57
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Jeku, do you have AIM? I downloaded the demo for reason and it looks just like hardware...but I'm having a lot of problems, and the forums there are all vets...

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Posted: 6th Feb 2004 15:56 Edited at: 6th Feb 2004 15:58
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Well you need
- a couple of mikes (eg Shure SM57 and SM58, each $50 used)
2 left/right overhead for the drums
1 bass drum
1 snare drum
1 for the guitar amp
1 for vocals.

- a mixing desk with at least 10+ inputs (eg Behringer MX1604A, used $130)
- a 2 channel compressor (for bass and snare as well as for vocals. Very improtant! (dbx or Behringer, used $70)
- a multi FX device (eg Alesis NanoVerb, used $50)
- a 4-track recorder (eg Tascam Porta Two, used $50)

+ cabels (~ $50-$100)

You can either record the whole thing live, or even better, record the basic/backing tracks (ie Drums, Bass, Rythm Guitar, Keys) on the first two tracks, overdub (ie Solo guitar, solo keys) on the third, and vocals on the fourth track.
Using "ping-pong", ie mixing down the 4 tracks on a HDD, and then back to 2 tracks on the recorder, you'll have another 2 tracks for overdubs, but also a slightly reduced sound quality. We've done this alot, though- back in the eighties, multitrack recorders were quite expensive . Anyway, if you choose this method, I recommend to use one single track for the bass guitar.

Me, I'll sit and write this love song as I all too seldom do
build a little fire this midnight. It's good to be back home with you.
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Posted: 6th Feb 2004 17:29
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CoolEditPro would be a good choice for basic studio recording and filtering, then a nice budget multitrack recorder, then whatever you have left should go on the best 4-track you can find. A lot of instruments can be really nicely emulated, like old 404's for example.

When I was about 15, I bought a 4-track mixer for about £50, and hooked it upto my ST with a mates keyboard and guitar, the end quality was certainly better than most people expected from us - doing it on the cheap is not unfeasible, you just gotta rely on your PC a lot.


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Mattman
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Posted: 6th Feb 2004 23:17 Edited at: 6th Feb 2004 23:20
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i found some tips here

http://www.itrstudio.com/4-track.html

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Benjamin
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Posted: 7th Feb 2004 15:11
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Hes already seen that

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Mattman
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Posted: 7th Feb 2004 16:42
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xxpetretxx > what?

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Benjamin
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Posted: 8th Feb 2004 16:38
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oops, wrong thread, lmao!

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