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Geek Culture / From DarkBasic to OpenGL!

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PiratSS
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Wow, I absolutely love OpenGL! The speed, the ease of coding, C++ enviroment!

I love the quads, GL_Lines rox! I really recommend this language to anyone!

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Neophyte
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Posted: 20th Feb 2004 06:54
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Uhh...OGL isn't a language. Its an API.

Anyway, glad you've found something you like.

On a related note: You may or may not like this because it isn't a C++ coding environment but BASIC4GL is a free basic interpreter that allows you to use OpenGL. Its not at fast because it is interpreted, but it is pretty easy.

You can find it here:
http://www.basic4gl.net/
A new version has just been released for it as well.
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Jeku
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Nice to see you like it, Pirate--- I made an OpenGL game last year for one of my courses at the University. It was yet another game based on the Tron lightcycle races


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newbi 2 basic
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Isnt there someone making DB compile and run in OpenGL?

I remember seeing an example somewhere
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Preston C
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Quote: "Isnt there someone making DB compile and run in OpenGL?

I remember seeing an example somewhere "


That was the plug in DBGL. I asked about it a couple weeks ago. Basically it lets you utilize OpenGL with your DarkBasic DirectX programs. They have to run side by side though, so no Sync On for the DB App

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Jonny_S
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Quote: "On a related note: You may or may not like this because it isn't a C++ coding environment but BASIC4GL is a free basic interpreter that allows you to use OpenGL. Its not at fast because it is interpreted, but it is pretty easy"


Yeh its coming along nicely now I'm a strong BASIC4GL supporter! you should all visit the forums! it needs populating

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zircher
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I find OpenGl appealing at the customer support and appearance level. It seems to be more well behaved than DirectX. The cross platform feature is nice, but not a requirement. The down side for me is that aside from C++ there is no friendly and fast alternate languages. I've played with Basic4GL and several Java/VRML/OpenGL solutions and was disappointed. After I dropped WildTangent due to licensing issues, I spent a year trying out other game dev languages and APIs. DBP turned out to be the most bang for the buck.
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Neophyte
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@zircher

"The down side for me is that aside from C++ there is no friendly and fast alternate languages. I've played with Basic4GL and several Java/VRML/OpenGL solutions and was disappointed."

You may be interested to find out that I'm writing a compiler for Basic4gl at the moment so when I get finished the speed for it should be boosted tremendously.

However, I'm in the earlier stages of writing the compiler at the moment so it'll be a while before I get finished.
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zircher
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@zircher

"Give me a hollar if you need a beta tester."

Will do.
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Gery
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hmm... i have somewhere the ORIGINAL(!!!) shi-tech both software and hardware accelerated opengl api! But i have no help file

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Elleomea
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Posted: 20th Feb 2004 23:36 Edited at: 20th Feb 2004 23:36
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Quote: " Isnt there someone making DB compile and run in OpenGL?

I remember seeing an example somewhere "


Besides DBGL there was the DB->CPP/OGL/SDL converter that I was working on. A darkbasic program put through the converter and then running natively in Linux can be seen here: http://mainframe39.mikeasoft.com/junk/pasteimage.jpg

The commands it was able to convert were: Hide Mouse, Show Mouse, Sync, Do, Loop, Set Display Mode, Put Pixel, Load Image and Paste Image.
But then I got distracted and never did any more on it .

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MikeS
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I'm just starting to get into C++ programming(Making a text adventure!), and it's funny to see myself going down the same road again as I did with DarkBasic Professsional.

Anyway...

I'm not sure on which API to go with. I have a nice big book on DirectX, that I plan on looking over in the next week or so, and then I'm curious to try OpenGL.

Multi-platform is the key for OpenGL(I also hear an easy learning curve also). I understand OpenGL does 3D, but what are the alternatives for Sound, multiplayer,etc. compared to DirectPlay or Direct Input? That's one of the reasons I'm liking the DirectX package. It's all together.

So, anyone mind posting some links of what OpenGL works well with. (Meaning sound ,multiplayer,Draw,etc.)
Would be much appreciative, as I'm very new to this higher level development.



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IanM
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You want to look at either the SDL or ClanLib libraries, or use my interface library and stick with DBPro

For free Plug-ins, source and the DBPro Interface library for Visual C++ 6 and .NET
http://www.matrix1.demon.co.uk
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MikeS
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Thanks for the links IanM.



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Neophyte
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@yellow

"So, anyone mind posting some links of what OpenGL works well with. (Meaning sound ,multiplayer,Draw,etc.)"

OpenAL does audio. Its used in the Unreal engine.

http://www.openal.org/
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MikeS
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Thanks for the link Neophyte.



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TKF15H
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Posted: 23rd Feb 2004 17:16
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For those who use SDL, anybody know how to rotate an image?
I know how to rotate an image in Euphoria, but in this case,
will I have to peek every RGBA value and rotate that? That
wouldn't be very fast/easy...

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IanM
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There was also an announcement on GameDev.Net for http://glfw.sourceforge.net/ - I haven't looked at it yet, but the write-up doesn't say anything about sound

For free Plug-ins, source and the DBPro Interface library for Visual C++ 6 and .NET
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