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D I G I T A L
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Posted: 13th Mar 2004 14:56
hello people,
i need an advice for some friend of mine here.
which one is better?
PC1:
Intel Pentium 4 Processor with Hyper-Threading Technology 3.0GHz
512K Cache/800MHz Front Side
512MB PC2700 DDR333 Memory
120GB 7200RPM Hard Drive
52x24x452x High Speed CD-RW Drive
16x DVD Drive
3.5" 1.44MB Floppy Drive
128MB DDR NVIDIA® GeForce FX5200 AGP 8x Video w/ TV-Out and DVI
AC '97 Integrated Sound
56K v.92 Modem Learn More
Intel 10/100Mbps Onboard Ethernet Adapter
IEEE 1394® FireWire Interface
Logitech® Internet Keyboard
Systemaxâ„¢ Scroll Mouse

PC2:
the same specs, but the processor is AMD athlon XP 3000+ (1600MHz system bus)

flibX0r
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Posted: 13th Mar 2004 15:10
Intel, unless you have subtancial cooling and overclock the Athlon. EVen then, the Intel chip will still have HT and an 800Mhz Front side bus. Nice specs though.

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james1980
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Posted: 13th Mar 2004 22:22
pc1 is better.
OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 13th Mar 2004 22:25
PC2 - Generally AMD processors can do more than Intel ones, which is why the processors are slighly lower, even though they work out quicker than Intel processors.


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D I G I T A L
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Posted: 13th Mar 2004 22:30
is that a fact The Coding Area? i've noticed that AMDs have a much faster system bus than intels, 1600MHz(AMD) 800MHz(Intel)...AMDs system bus is double the speed of intel!!! say we have an AMD with 2.5GHz and an intel 3.0Ghz...do i still choose the AMD becoz of its fast system bus?

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Posted: 13th Mar 2004 22:35
If you want to then yes...


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Fallout
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Posted: 13th Mar 2004 23:06
Your processor can only process information as quickly as it can get if from RAM - hense BUS speed being important.

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sponge008
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Posted: 14th Mar 2004 00:47
You do realize that you need a new motherboard too if you get an Athlon rather than a Pentium.
Emperor Baal
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Posted: 14th Mar 2004 02:32 Edited at: 14th Mar 2004 02:43
Quote: "is that a fact The Coding Area? i've noticed that AMDs have a much faster system bus than intels, 1600MHz(AMD) 800MHz(Intel)...AMDs system bus is double the speed of intel!!! say we have an AMD with 2.5GHz and an intel 3.0Ghz...do i still choose the AMD becoz of its fast system bus?"


Lol, I wish that was true

But, serious.
AMD run at a FSB of 133/166/200mhz and are double-pumped.
INTEL run at a FSB of 133/166/200mhz and are double/quad-pumped.
(double-pumped means that the real tranfer speed is 2xFSB)
(quad-pumped means that the real transfer speed is 4xFSB)

For example:
The AMD Athlon 2500+ XP runs at 1833mhz but is faster than a INTEL P4 2500mhz!

Your best bet will be the AMD (PC2) It's cheaper (I think) and runs just as fast with games (MMX, 3DNOW and SSE support).
Believe me, I only use AMD's, INTEL's are too expensive. (Check my sig )

Maybe some useless advice:
You might want to consider to buy computer parts and put them together, it will be faster than the ones above:

Asus A7N8X-X motherboard $70
512mb pc2700 ram $50
AMD Athlon 2500+ (barton 512kb cache) $70
Geforce 4 ti 4200 64/128mb videocard $90
Hercules Fortissimo III soundcard $50
80GB Maxtor harddisk $70
52x CD-ROM no-brand $30
Floppy Drive $10
10/100mbps Intel PRO network card $15
Cheap Midi Tower case + 300W or better $50

$570 at max! And believe me, that setup would run fast!

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D I G I T A L
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Posted: 14th Mar 2004 15:38
thankx for the help there Emperor Baal! u helped the guy alot. thankx everyone else!

lcfcfan
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Posted: 16th Mar 2004 23:49
erm just incase u don't know the athlon xp 3000+ does not have a 1600mhz fsb it has a 400mhz bus it's the athlon 64 3000+ that has the 1600mhz fbs.

james1980
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Posted: 18th Mar 2004 01:31
you hard drive will have a bottle neck even with raid.
sata is even too slow for my computer.

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