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3 Dimensional Chat / like Unreal 2004 in 96 KB !

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wh1sp3r
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 00:16
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http://www.theprodukkt.com/ LOL

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soapyfish
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 01:28
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I'm confused. Is this one of your projects???

HEY, YOU THERE, THE ONE READING THIS, WHY NOT VISIT OUR TEAM SITE.
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dark coder
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 03:36
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1st off thats most likely to be your shortcut icon thats 96kb, and not the game and 2nd ly i souldent trust a file that small from a new memeber

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The Big Babou
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 03:49
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no, you can take this seriously. I saw it yesterday on TV and downloaded it. Some guys from the Demo scene made it, because of this, the complete game is only 96k. It has great graphics and shadows. some good models, too. the sound sucks, but hey it's only 96k with all media. the trick is they don't save the meshes, they save a cube and the "modifier stack". when loading, the cubes are modified and saved in the memory. same goes for textures. please try it, it's no fake

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dark coder
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 04:03
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ok i believe you since its on hundereds of sites, but i cant get it to run i guess my gpu aint up to it :-P

it bombs out at 1/20 th across

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The Big Babou
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 04:11
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perhaps even the memory. it ran quite well on my elderly radeon8500 and 512 ram. and it takes a while to load

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dark coder
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 04:15
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ya, i have a radeon 7000 and 512 ddr

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Richard Davey
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 04:55
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Take it seriously - it's from these guys: http://www.farb-rausch.com/, who are basically my demo-scene idols and probably the most talented PC coders out there.

Check out the stunning fr-030: Candytron (64KB) with it's awesome soundtrack, or the bloody amazing fr-025: the.popular.demo. Both from the site above.

Cheers,

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WoW is WOW
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 05:27
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But how do you get a game to be only 96kb???
Please share your secret, cuz then my game can be really small too.
PLEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 05:30
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It starts to load but then closes.
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TigerZ
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 07:36
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that us simply AMAZING!!!!!!!!! granted theres a few bug and its slow, but for 96kb, thats just way amazing, i wonder how this could impact the market
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dark coder
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 13:40
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@rpg_freak

looks like we both have crap gfx cards , wecome to the club

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TKF15H
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 13:52
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Quote: "it bombs out at 1/20 th across"

Same here. Tested it on 2 PCs.

Can I see a demo now? [edit]Disregard, I saw the demo.
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The Big Babou
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perhaps it's your gfx cards, but don't forget it's still a beta. Something interesting those guys stated, was that the engine itself is around 32kb and the rest is all media

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Peter H
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 17:05
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Quote: "it bombs out at 1/20 th across"

*sigh*....same here


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Mussi
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 17:10
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omg how did they manage to do this? it's awesome man, beautifull light effects and scenes. this is what I call 1337!



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spooky
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 20:50
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Works fine on my PC and I must say I'm very impressed. I get a few graphical glitches and I got stuck in one of the iris doors but even so you can not fail to be mystified at how they crammed everything into a 98K zip file. Then again, remember how much gaming you could get into a 48K spectrum.

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Mussi
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 21:09
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why is it that winzip and stuff like that can't compress that good?



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Fallout
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 21:20 Edited at: 16th Apr 2004 21:21
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Because it's not compression. It's a set of instructions.

What's smaller? The instruction on how to draw a stick man:
Circle
Line downwards (body)
Two more lines (legs)
Two more lines (arms)
(About 40bytes)

Or a 300kb bitmap picture of the stickman?

That's the principle they imply for most of their media, hence rediculously small file size.

Still fikkin amazing!

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Mussi
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 21:24
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I see, very well done, leetest thing I've seen



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Peter H
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 21:26
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the unzipped file is still only 100kb


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Fallout
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 21:35
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It obviously compresses itself to buggery!

I just watched a few demos, thanks to Rich's link, and just found out some geeza I used to write music with (Wayfinder) does softsynth/music programming and composing for them! hehe. Small world.

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WoW is WOW
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Posted: 17th Apr 2004 07:55
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my gfx card is 64mb GeForce 4.
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wh1sp3r
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you have to have shader support ... RAM at leats 512 MB and proccessor > 1.5Ghz

PS: Real programmers aren't afraid of math!.

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WoW is WOW
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how do I activate shader support?
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That's €%$"$#@ amazing??? There's bump mapping, realtime shadows, glowing effects all over the place. Very well done (like they they need to hear it from me )

Take care
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wh1sp3r
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RPG_Freak you cant activate shader... you need graphic card, which this support have ... ex: Radeon etc ....

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Lascerus
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I have celeron 2.0ghz, 768 ram and a geforce fx 5200 and it still runs slow. ANybody know why?

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@General I have the exact same gfx card as you!
The one you wrote in your sig.
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Gir
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F**k me! thats amazing! bit jerky...but then i am running, 3DS Max5, Photoshop 7, Opera, IE5, Word and Media PLayer in the background, oh and MSN


I'm makin' a cake...
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I think I know how they did the models, textures too. sound is understandable. BUT what about the code and the shaders. Hmmm. Maybe machine code. Thats very low in resources.

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Posted: 19th Apr 2004 06:49
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Brilliant, works great.
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