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X GAMER
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i was just wondering what program they used to create the dark basic website so if anyone know it would help if you tell me thanks.
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Lord Ozzum
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it was coded in PHP I think

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what do you mean PHP ?
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It was coded by Rich in PHP (that's a scripting language). I believed he did use a commercial PHP editor, however not the DreamWeaver WYSIWYG type thing.

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Posted: 21st May 2004 00:44 Edited at: 21st May 2004 00:45
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I thought that would be the site, but it wasn't.
Sorry people

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X GAMER
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what do you sugest i use if i wanted to make a website like this one. of course it wont be as good though.
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learn to code
or you could look it up on http://www.google.com

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hey lord ozzum who did you use or how did you make the page on your site that lets people buy your products.
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I don't have a sitesorry, can't help ya there

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depends on what kinda website you want...

static - html
dynamic(like this one) - php
interactive - flash, java applets

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I did my Young Enterprise company's site in Notepad! - http://www.customax.net

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i would have done this site in notepad/wordpad but rich's buget may be a bit larger than mine so he may have some sort of program ide type thing to make it quicker and easier, i did all my site in notepad (except the forum cause i'm too lazy and don't have enought time to write a forum, i can't take full credit for te clock either, javascript is the next language on my list to be learnt)

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I use Homesite 5 to build the content pages, Photoshop for all graphics and Zend Studio 3 for all the PHP code. If you don't even know what PHP is, don't bother looking at Zend Studio.

I did just buy myself the latest version of TopStyle too, but haven't used it much yet.

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Hah! Got your trade secrets.

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Quote: "what did they use to create the darkbasic website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


Typically when you're asking a question, a question mark is the punctuation. And a piece of advice, one punctuation mark is all that's necessary.

Just telling you...


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Quote: "what did they use to create the darkbasic website?"


Xepirx0$Texmirgi0$ and $levh${svo%
just like anything else.


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The tool I use is so flexible it can do anything. PHP, CSS, HTML, Flash, Picture editing.. you name it - it's all there inside a neat and tidy interface.

http://www.henry.martinez.net/misc/Microsoft%AE%20Notepad.htm

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thanks you all for the help so far i new to web pages and i got all types of web page makers i just dont know what to use. i have: homepage4, topstile, dreamweaver mx 2004, flash mx 2004, frontpage, and 3 other freeware ones which should i use?
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david t where did you get the poke the bunny code?
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david t that wasnt even funny ... well i guess it kinda was but still ... actually it was dead funny. I think i will use your all powerful notpad to make my website thanks.
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oh and what is up with using tables on your website i thought only in experienced coder who didnt have the time to find out the pixel positioning of there images by hand used them.
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If you need a simple and easy to maintain design you can borrow mine at http://www.fire-on-the-suns.com. It also uses PayPal buttons so that you can handle credit cards with a minimum of fuss. And, the front page has some javascript code for loading a random image from a list of file names.

The site uses tables, so XGAMER shouldn't even bother looking. (Aside from the fact that tables support multiple browsers, allow for variable screen sizes, and are easy to use with notepad.) For a simple site it does what I need it to do.
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Quote: "oh and what is up with using tables on your website i thought only in experienced coder who didnt have the time to find out the pixel positioning of there images by hand used them."


Actually, tables are what virtually all of the websites out there use. The people that do pixel positioning with layers are CSS things that *most* people don't use.

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Quote: "david t where did you get the poke the bunny code? "


The what?

Quote: "david t that wasnt even funny ... well i guess it kinda was but still ... actually it was dead funny. I think i will use your all powerful notpad to make my website thanks. "


It was incredibly funny. End of story.


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Quote: "The tool I use is so flexible it can do anything. PHP, CSS, HTML, Flash, Picture editing.. you name it - it's all there inside a neat and tidy interface."


I know isnt it a great all around editor? I have messed with so many diffrent programs and file types with that program, heck you can even modify dba files (just not compile them).


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notepad is amazing, uet wordpadcan be useful (cos it can handle the returns in some file types) look at my site, i made it with notepad and paint


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meh there is a warning on the front page, or atleast there shud b, i havent finished it yet, i dont have time, im doing first year of GCSEs and m dads website is a priority. i will finsih it sum time

EDIT: im slowly making a few templates as well, so far they suck


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I thought this site was made of one long line of exclamation marks folded over on itself.
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no its a site comprised completely of nothing fold in on itself, get it rite

update: m page will not be finished till spetember (summer holiday=time)


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What I would like to know is how much space all these forums take up on the server?

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This is only me guessing-

Not much for the PHP files.

4mb for avatars

700kb for images

4mb for database.

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I'd guess closer to a gig or two for this forum's db.

Quote: "Zend Studio 3 for all the PHP code"


Isn't it just the bomb? Don't get me wrong, the lack of visible whitespace pisses me off no end, but the silky code completion and analyze code are a god send Oh and the "execute" button, writing regexps was never so easy

If you were MEANT to understand it, we wouldn't have called it 'code'
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thanks you all i did finally use word pad and paint for my site and i have to say it looks pretty good so far. I havent up dated it yet im still working on the new template for it. I gave into the dark side and used templates they are almost more of a pain than a help. they are so #$%#$% sensitive. does anyone know what they used for the used to create the cool image at the top right of the page the one across from the Dark Basic title on the black background?
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I want to mess with wordpad or notepad and knock up a website. Im at a stage where I just want to learn, learn and learn some more. Problem - I dont know html.

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Some stats for you all about this site:

PHP Code: 1.93 MB (173 files)
HTML Content: 2.71 MB (1,043 files)
Site Graphics: 29.8 MB (2,312 files) - of which 1MB = avatars
Showcase Graphics: 22.8 MB (909 files)

SQL Database size: 1.9 GB (Apollo = 1.1 GB of that)
File Server space: 2.39 GB (713 files) (*excludes DBDN files*)

Web Server Hits (excludes all .zip files, etc)

Daily Average: 1,051,570 hits - 72,556 page views
Monthly Average: 31,547,118 hits - 2,176,702 page views

adr - Zend is the dogs I've been betaing the new release for ages now (just installed 3.5.0 Beta 2 today infact) and love it - the code analyser/profiler is a life saver.

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I dont mean to sound rude Rich, but does it cost a lot to keep this site maintained and hosted etc?

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Quote: "PHP Code: 1.93 MB (173 files)"


I suppose I was pretty close... >_<

Quote: "HTML Content: 2.71 MB (1,043 files)"


1,043 html files? Where are they?

Quote: "Site Graphics: 29.8 MB (2,312 files) - of which 1MB = avatars "


Damn. Once again, where are all these images?

Quote: "Showcase Graphics: 22.8 MB (909 files)"


That's alot of showcase entries

Quote: "SQL Database size: 1.9 GB (Apollo = 1.1 GB of that)"


Ouch. Pretty off then. (0.8gb for non-apollo stuff? That's alot :s)

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Quote: "1,043 html files? Where are they?"


Every page you see is an HTML file sucked into the PHP template. I don't use dynamic content because the majority of it never changes, it's all HTML and not sucked from SQL (why bother when there is no need?!). The DBPro site has 51 pages for example, plus all the other sites. There are quite a few when you add them all together!

Approx. 500 of those images were the Retro Compo screen shots (which aren't in the Showcase).

The rest is all SQL space really

As for how much it costs to host the server, it's really quite reasonable. Check out Pair Networks Dedicated Server pages (www.quickserve.com I believe). We use them for our web server/sql server and a different host (cheaper bandwidth!) for our File Server.

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Quote: "I did my Young Enterprise company's site in Notepad! - http://www.customax.net"


Woah, I think we have the equivalent of that over here. It's called 'Young Achievement Australia' and you basically just get a group of students and make a company that produces, markets and sells a product. Each student company is sponsored by a real company (where weekly meetings are held) and you need to generate your initial investment by selling shares. Is it the same sort of thing or completely different?

I was a part of it last year, our company scouted some local bands and put together a compilation CD of around 16 tracks. Was quite fun and it's just one more thing to stick on your Resume/CV.


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Quote: "I did my Young Enterprise company's site in Notepad! - http://www.customax.net"


Same here 0_0

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@MOONSHiNE: if you want help learning html then you can email me or add me to msn/aim and i'll be glad to help. once you're happy with html i'll help you learn php if you want too, they're not difficult.

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oooo mm0zct i already know html, but php could be useful


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X Gamer, no offence, but this made me laugh at your site:

Quote: "Welcome to X GAMER an up and rising game creator. We are new to the computer game creation race. We know that you have heard of Blizzard, Microsoft, and EA Games Well they both Came from humble beginnings like us. In the future we will be a common gameing name we will compete with Bilzzard, EA Games, Microsoft and all the other big gameing names. We of course have not been in the game creating buisness for long so we do not have lots big fancy games to sport on our site and we do not yet have the reputation yet but if you will stick with us and download our games and tell us what we need to do to make them better you will be suprised with how good our games get and we promise you will like the results.
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WMG I saw something very funny on your web site...

Oh sorry that was C[b][/b]MC's web site I'm thinking about; so hard to tell apart.

My point being don't knock him for his web site, it's the sort of quality that was on your web site. Web design services anybody?

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