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newbi 2 basic
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 13:08
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Ever gone the an ATM and wondered

"What do they make the app in?"

and you say "Its probably something done in C++ or its own OS"?

well

your wrong

Most ATMS run on WinNT, Win95 or Win98.
and THE APPLICATION IS IN VISUAL BASIC!

dont believe me
http://matrix.m33p.be/BENQ0087.JPG (taken by my mate)

http://www.snowblind.net/bank.php (quick search on google)

as you can see that is a visual basic runtime error

so there you go folks! when you withdraw money you put your trust in a VB application



Some older ones are OS/2 and those two a HBOS atms.. I aint too sure about other ATMs but i wouldnt be surprised is it was a purchaseable product. As they all look similar nowadays

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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 13:16 Edited at: 1st Jun 2004 13:17
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Had a friend who, when we finished University, went to work for NCR...

Dont you just had the new ATM's with the rubbery keys ? They are awful and unresponsive...

I very much doubt they are purchasable products - generally tailored to the bank/building society for which they are for.


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newbi 2 basic
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 13:31 Edited at: 1st Jun 2004 13:32
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http://www.astracomm.co.uk/



google begs to differ


also

http://www.coed.org/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=3334

a ATM running windows XP

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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 13:39 Edited at: 1st Jun 2004 13:40
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I'll e-mail them later on - see if their OS is bespoked or not.


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newbi 2 basic
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 13:43
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thinking of buying one

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Van B
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 13:50
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I would have assumed pascal or cobol or something along those lines - never VB!. I reckon it must depend on which machine, because the ones at my branch are freakin ancient things with green monitors (they look very dos), then there's the ones with colour graphics etc which I reckon must be VB or Delphi or something like that.


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newbi 2 basic
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the ancient old green ones i am sure are OS/2

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newbi 2 basic
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 13:59
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/devplat/atm/atmOS/default.aspx

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Gir
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 15:22
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We have one at uni, it uses C++, i know this casue it has a big error on screen with a C++ error hehe, still works when you put ur card in though

I'm makin' a cake...
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David T
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 17:44
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Quote: "Most ATMS run on WinNT, Win95 or Win98."


Seen one crashed

Same for
- photo booth
- airport screens

Two strings walk into a bar. I'll have a pint says the first$%ASLDJ09920D"$"$D. Excuse my friend says the second, he isn't null terminated.
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newbi 2 basic
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haha sweet yeah... its funny when you see one crash

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Arkheii
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 18:23
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The bookstore in my school uses a computer that runs some DOS program. But it's still pretty nifty even for a DOS app, but the blue color just looks horrid. Imagine working with one of those things every day.

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Ian T
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 18:44
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Unbelievable. Maybe they really do use them for airplane traffic control --- good god!

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Kentaree
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 18:50
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Most air traffic control machines are about 15 years old :~P

The shop I work in uses a DOS-based till system, and it shows, it doesnt work properly half of the time

Its not a bug, its a feature!
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Van B
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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 19:08
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You know those little business card machines, well the first monochrome ones were actually Atari-ST's. There's a whisky distillery near my house, and their QA dept still uses midi-linked Atari's as their feedback console for tasters. It's funny how you often see older technology getting re-used - it's nice to know that not every software company relies on M$ platforms.


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Posted: 1st Jun 2004 19:33
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Quote: "There's a whisky distillery near my house"

Cool! Have you got a spare room for me?

I still use an Atari ST on stage. The computer itself is very reliable. Monitor and mouse aren't, though.

Play Nice! Play Basic!
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Oraculaca
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2004 00:26
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Ive got an old 'penine' till here, ill need to fit a bigger hard drive but it runs knoppix o.k from a cdrom I fitted (albeit slowly) it even comes with a nifty 9" monitor. Was thinking about using it as an mp3 server
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Dazzag
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2004 00:37
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Not too suprising. Is cheap and easy to produce. I once saw a train station sign (that looked just like the old types) crash and return to Windows. Tops.

Once did work experience in a big factory with huge aluminium vats. To load the vats there was this computer (with a female voice and in 1989 to boot!) that did everything automatically on massive yellow cranes that ran on rails in the ceiling. Everything was very Aliens (the 2nd movie). Double tops. The humans were only there to do orders given out by the computer to fix things, although if you left it long enough 90% of fixes needed were done by the computer anyhows. Was just red tape for safety basically.

Anyhows, I had a look at one of the control panels in the cranes (could be manually operated). Basically no.1 was that the panel could easily be pryed off, and underneath was a standard keyboard membrane. They had taken off most of the keys, put a metal top on it (aluminium obviously) with holes for the keys left, then stuck stickers for what the keys did (left, right, up, down, lower crane etc). More suprisingly was that the membrane still worked and I broke into the running program, to find QBasic! Actually might have been GW-Basic now I come to think of it, but suffice to say it was bloody suprising. Turned out the whole place worked that way. ie. basterdise any PC components yourself, as tailer made stuff from outside cost the earth (and would probably be the same anyhows)

Cheers

I am 99% probably lying in bed right now... so don't blame me for crappy typing
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