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Jimmy
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Quote: "Umm...correction, that was CmC that took credit for work, not me."


Yes, you're Hoss now, we're all very impressed *clap clap clap*

Show us more, Mr. Magician!

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Ian T
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Hoss says he's C-M-C's brother. There has been absolutely no evidence towards this seeing as they talk and act the same. But Hoss is Wooly Mammoth Games, who has also tried to trick people with his schemes even if they are different people.

I'm reserving judgment on the book until I see it. It might be plagarised, it might not. If it is, it'll probably earn Hoss a ban and the issue will be resolved. If it's not, I'll look at him with a good deal more respect... but that still doesn't give any evidence towards him not being C-M-C, and I will not forgive C-M-C's crimes.


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Powersoft
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Posted: 8th Jul 2004 04:11
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hypothetical situation:

I score a goal in a football match.this means team A win FA CUP. Team B are pi55ed off cause of this and becase of what i did my brother is pointed and jeered at. even though his brother cant help it.

What do you think of team B? Morons? Cause that what they are


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Jimmy
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Posted: 8th Jul 2004 04:11 Edited at: 8th Jul 2004 04:14
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But he IS CmC, did you not see my evidence against him?

Plus, the password I took out of those emails was the SAME password that Chris used to register his subdomain back in the day, the jury doesn't have to deliberate long for that one! STAMP... GUILTY

*gasp from audience*
*faint drumroll*
*exeunt left*
*curtain close*


Powersoft: I don't quite understand what you're trying to say.
EDIT2: Ok, after reading it the 9th time I got it But Rich, we're not jeering at him because of his brother, WHAT BROTHER? We're mad at him because of him, because we don't believe he is someone else.

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Ian T
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Posted: 8th Jul 2004 04:14 Edited at: 8th Jul 2004 04:15
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The problem with your logic, Powersoft, is that if this hypothetical football match was really like this situation, the bad player wouldn't only be scoring badly, he'd be gouging peoples' eyes out and kicking players in the nuts and shouting racial slurs while he threw the ball into the stands... and most important of all, he and his brother would mysteriously never be seen in seperate places at the same time . So you see, the smart people who are experienced with his evil ways are the ones who figure out what he's only pretending to have/be a brother so that he won't get in the trouble he deserves.

That's what this situation is like.


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Jimmy
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Posted: 8th Jul 2004 04:19
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Booyah to that.

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Posted: 8th Jul 2004 04:42 Edited at: 8th Jul 2004 04:45
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Please forgive my ignorance, I was not aware of his past, as megaton has already stated I am fairly new to this community.

As a developer I also believe that copying (read: stealing) others code, art, music or whatever is the worst kind of crime within the software development business, and can never be forgiven.
But I still think he should be given a fair chance, so I will eagerly await this book's release and judge him afterwards.

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Posted: 8th Jul 2004 05:03
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Man, I hope and pray to the hungarian pie god that nobody buys this book. We must not let him WIN! A boycott.. a boycott is in order!

boy








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Ian T
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Posted: 8th Jul 2004 05:25
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Okay, jimmy, calm down ... let's just see what the book is like when it's released, shall we?


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OK< fair enough Jimmy, you've got me. Ban me if you like, but a few last words:

1. I have been writing this to try to help newbies because not all of the people here with great knowledge of DB/DBP are willing to help.
2. I have not had pirated work on my site for around 1/2 year, and all the work that I had on my site that was not mine was given to me by a team member saying it was his work, and I did not do a background check.
3. I have given up on team requests, and make all the media, coding, and sound for my games, so spamming the Team Request Board is no longer an excuse for banning me.
4. I will continue work on the book, and I will release it, even if I do lose money, I may even give it away for free, as my sole intent is to help beginners.
5. I offered my web design services, am currently doing a site for IanM (who btw, is much more credible than you) and those templates were resellers, and now the new templates that I have I designed. I am sure ReD_eYe appreciates the site that I designed for him.
6. 50/50 means in my terms, everyone who helped with the book will get an equal share of the pie.

GOOD BYE

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Posted: 8th Jul 2004 05:29 Edited at: 8th Jul 2004 05:38
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EDIT: yay!

So you admit you're cmc!

And when do I get my book??

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doing a site for IanM???

IanM is this true?


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Posted: 8th Jul 2004 05:40 Edited at: 8th Jul 2004 05:41
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Quote: "2. I have not had pirated work on my site for around 1/2 year, and all the work that I had on my site that was not mine was given to me by a team member saying it was his work, and I did not do a background check.
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Actually that one isn't exactly true. You once posted mech concept art that you claimed you made in MS paint when I knew that you infact got them of the Lore project site and so did you. You got busted that time aswell, so don't give us this bull that someone "passed it on to you".

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you go Megaton! hit em with the bombs!





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Posted: 8th Jul 2004 06:42
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Ahhh, that's better. See Chris, I actually have more respect for you now that you've come clean.

IanM probably let you design his site, because you're doing it for free. And a free, crappy site is better than no site. Not to say your site would be crappy, I haven't seen your actual work.

Anyway, good luck with everything and I hope everyone enjoyed this as much as I did.

Oh and mouse, waiting for the release of the book would defeat the purpose of the boycott, because in order for you to READ it you'd have to BUY it, DUHHHHHHH-- *cough* *hack*

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Posted: 8th Jul 2004 06:51 Edited at: 8th Jul 2004 06:57
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I saw the post in which the site design was proposed. I think it should be noted that IanM didn't go and search for Hoss, or anyone for that matter, to design his site.

What transpired:

Hoss posted in a thread that IanM's site didn't look so good, and that he should let Hoss design one for him. From what I can remember IanM simply said, "Sure go for it. I haven't worked on the site in a year, and it needs a redesign." (or something like that). I'll try to locat the post and post it here.

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Thanks IanM....by the way, your site is OK, but I would love it if you would allow me to do a redesign for you for free.

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Go for it - it's long overdue, but I can never be bothered to do it.


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Posted: 5th Jul 2004 02:13

Yep, Ill get right on it, ill e-mail it when I'm done.

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This is not meant to discredit Hoss or Ianm, but it should be put in context to be fair.


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he asked me the same thing...

"..your site is ugly and could be so much better.."

Or along those lines anyway. I think that....
well nevermind, I'll reserve what I think.

have fun


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Jimmy
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DBSpot is pretty ugly, redesign that for me. While you're at it, my car needs a body job, sweet, thanks.

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hey CR,

what did your fingers get a new pair of brake-pads? That was an amazing feat of SELF "mind control"!

~zen


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Quote: "While you're at it, my car needs a body job, sweet, thanks.

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(The book is on it's way right?)

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Quote: "2. I have not had pirated work on my site for around 1/2 year, and all the work that I had on my site that was not mine was given to me by a team member saying it was his work, and I did not do a background check."


You actually had a team?

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Zen,

I have taken on a new state of relaxed mind and body.....

(with all the new modly powers floating around one cant be too careful, you know what I mean? Not to mention Jess already was joking about banning me and I didn't even do anything - the night is young yet though )


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Quote: "No, there is a local print shop where I live called \"Visimage\" that prints books."


I did a search for Visimage, and I found out it was in Toronto.
They don\'t even do book printing. Would you mind pointing me towards the Visimage you\'re looking at? (Location or url?)



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Ah crap, cmc is coming to Toronto? o_O
We have enough people like you here allready.

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Nope, megaton, I am in NY, and there is something called that in downtown Truxton.

There's no problem so large it can't be solved by killing the user off, deleting their files, closing their account and reporting their REAL earnings to the IRS.
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Actually that one isn't exactly true. You once posted mech concept art that you claimed you made in MS paint when I knew that you infact got them of the Lore project site and so did you. You got busted that time aswell, so don't give us this bull that someone "passed it on to you".

I am being honest with this, I have never had any mech related stuff on my site, the chess game yes, and same with pikachu II, which were both given to me by a person named "Ben Dimelow" who WAS part of the team.

There's no problem so large it can't be solved by killing the user off, deleting their files, closing their account and reporting their REAL earnings to the IRS.
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Alright fine, we can do it the hard way, by me digging that thread up again, if ofcourse you hadent beaten me to it and edited it.

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Meg, the EDIT STAIN will be showing anyway. Go ahead get that thread, it just further proves the case.


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