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Geek Culture / 6 murdered because of a stolen Xbox

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Jeku
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wow! over a stolen Xbox!?

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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 07:33 Edited at: 9th Aug 2004 07:36
Im not to far away from where the murders happend

didnt know it was about an xbox though...


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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 07:37
Don't take this as a racist remark please... just as the cliche it is meant as ....

Only In America!!!

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Quote: ""There was no way they could really defend themselves.""

They could get out of bed, go to the kitchen, and grab a knife.
Did they wake up or were they asleap the whole time?
If they woke up, they could grab a baseball bat, and shove it into one of the people, and they would probably relese it(if you hit them in the right place). Then you could wack all the people in the head and run to the kitchen, then grab a knife.

Where the people veeeerrrrryyyyy poor?

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What a bunch of dumba......people.

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lol my friend said that, anyone see the head bashed in by an Ipod article a while back

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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 07:41 Edited at: 9th Aug 2004 07:43
Ilya... If someone sneaks up on you with a baseball bat beating you to death how are you suppose to defend yourself. Specially since it was 1 am in the morning and they were all sleeping.

Edit... Also they werent related. They all just worked at a local burger king or something so my guess is they lived together to afford rent. And if you work at burger king ya your going to be kinda poor.


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Quote: "Only In America!!! "


Yep, we're the only country with people screwed up enough to do this, just over a gaming console.

So, you think the parents of the victims are going to sue Microsoft over this, or something similar?

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If I woke up I could kick them in the balls.

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if i woke up i'd tell them til wait til morning (seriously)

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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 07:45
They must of all had a bash on Man Hunt.

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lol isnt manhunt only for PS2 though?


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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 09:10
Yeah, I'm just waiting for the news to come out about the victims suing Microsoft and/or the publishers of the 6 games that were stolen.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 09:22
How could you not wake up , or did they?
If I was in that situation I would atleast try and fight back!

*I grabs poket knife , sticks under my pillow and goes to bed


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Quote: "Yep, we're the only country with people screwed up enough to do this"


Common misconception... the biggest high school shooting, for example, happened in Europe. The whole 'America=Murder' thing is like the Bermuda Triangle: people don't compare their selection with the rest of the world and come to ridiculous conclusions.

That said... what kind of sickos could kill helpless people over a stolen console? Gah, the world is going to crap...

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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 09:35 Edited at: 9th Aug 2004 09:36
Quote: "If I was in that situation I would atleast try and fight back!"


Who says they didn't? But imagine, if you will, that you're in a deep sleep, and someone hits you as hard as they can over the head with a baseball bat. If you wake up, you'll probably be too traumatized or disoriented to move. BANG! One more hit and you for sure will be knocked out or dead. These aren't pillows, folks, they're baseball bats!

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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 09:38 Edited at: 9th Aug 2004 09:39
Aye. Which relates to how disgusting that is. It's one to thing to give someone a chance to defend themselves when you're killing 'em (still deserves death sentence). It's another thing to kill someone who's relatively defenseless. But bashing in someone's head in their sleep? That's on its own bloody level of screwed-up-ness.

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They should tape the people who did it to the ground and beat them to death with metal baseball bats(or set them on fire).

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I hardly agree with the equal punishment concept, but I think all of them, being of 18 years or older, deserve death sentence for that... crime doesn't get much more foul.

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Did the victims have any relitivs? If so, they should be the ones to preform the death sentence to the killers.

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My goodness, you're very classical in that respect .

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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 10:08 Edited at: 9th Aug 2004 10:09
Like I said I live near the area where the murders happened and the local news stations dont have much info. They dont know if they were sleeping or awake... they dont know if the victims fought back... and so on. Also they didnt state the xbox was stolen during the news but "Missing" and located in a box inside the house. And dont say "Only in America" because if you read a couple post below you will see that some kid killed another kid because Manhunt influenced him in Scottland or something.


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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 10:13
Death sentence....which is hurts worse:

Suffering intense pain for a few seconds only to leave this Earth and never have to feel pain again.

or

Rotting in a high security prisons with a bunch of guys who rape other guys when there are no guards around.


Still though, it'd be good to at least get rid of the guy who organized it, especially since he has a criminal record.

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Bestowing death sentence because it's kinder than life sentence (heh) deals with the symtom and not the problem. The gov't needs to start putting way more funding into straightening prisons out. Messy business

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first the Manhunt murder, and now this, wtf is going on?
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Quote: "They could get out of bed, go to the kitchen, and grab a knife."


Yes...in the dark, half-asleep, while being beaten by 4 people with baseball bats........first one to make it to the door gets candy!

And yea, that is crime at it's worst.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 11:03 Edited at: 9th Aug 2004 11:03
My gosh! Makes me really think about do I really want to be a game developer? Triggering things like this...? Yes, they will sue Micro$oft.

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Ocean, I don't know about you, but I make all of my games for the sole purpose of turning people into homicidal maniacs.


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I remember one time, I was about 9.

my neighbor had his ps1 stolen, and his memory cards thrown into a bon fire. well, he then goes over to my friends(person who did it) house who lives about 6 blocks away, and breaks the kids collar bone, takes his ps1 back to his house, and starts playing it.
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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 12:22
Just wait until Senator Lieberman gets wind of this--- him and his ilk are attracted to any crime remotely related to video games.

I'm sure if there's a copy of GTA III or Manhunt in the Xbox then they'll say that it drove them to use bats and murder. Of course they'll overlook the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Natural Born Killers, and Reservoir Dogs DVDs by the television set...

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Nice Jimmy

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Quote: "If they woke up, they could grab a baseball bat, and shove it into one of the people, and they would probably relese it(if you hit them in the right place). Then you could wack all the people in the head and run to the kitchen, then grab a knife."


You've been watching too many movies.


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Way too many.

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Friends and family of the people who were killed could not sue Microsoft, For microsoft would state that the people stole the Console and they cannot be held responsable for this...
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What good will it do to sue Microsoft over a stolen xbox and murder anyway? That's like sueing Mazda because someone drove your car of a cliff.

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Morons shouldn't have stolen the Xbox in the first place.

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they probably all had 3rd grade educations.
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And I'm sure ALL 6 of them were in on it too... let's try to be a little sensitive about it.


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Well said Jimmy.

JeKu-> Hmm, I liked Lieberman before, but if he's one of those anti-game types then my respect for him will be down considerably... well said.

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Quote: "They could get out of bed, go to the kitchen, and grab a knife.
Did they wake up or were they asleap the whole time?
If they woke up, they could grab a baseball bat, and shove it into one of the people, and they would probably relese it(if you hit them in the right place). Then you could wack all the people in the head and run to the kitchen, then grab a knife."


You watched too many movies!
You wouldn't have a chance against one guy with a baseball bat even IF you got a knife.
And those guys weren't alone!

Quote: "Common misconception... the biggest high school shooting, for example, happened in Europe. The whole 'America=Murder' thing is like the Bermuda Triangle: people don't compare their selection with the rest of the world and come to ridiculous conclusions."


Well you're not exactly right!
USA has BY FAR the highest murder rate of the world. (of all 1st world countries)
Yah you even top Somalia!
If you add all the murders of all the Europe of the past 3 years you don't even get half as many as in the USA in the last year.
And BTW which was the biggest high school shooting? you're talking about Erfurt, Germany right?


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Quote: "
USA has BY FAR the highest murder rate of the world. (of all 1st world countries)"


That's because we have the biggest population ... I haven't seen a single survey that points to us having a higher murder rate BY PERCENTILE. And England has a far higher violent crime rate.

Quote: "If you add all the murders of all the Europe of the past 3 years you don't even get half as many as in the USA in the last year."


I seriously doubt that and I'd like to see some sources.

Quote: "you're talking about Erfurt, Germany right?
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Yup.

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Quote: "That's because we have the biggest population "


I thought China had the biggest population.

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Of Europe and the USA, since they're the only ones being measured .

If China was being counted, I have one argument left -- we call a lot of stuff murder that their government doesn't.

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Quote: "Quote: "Yep, we're the only country with people screwed up enough to do this"

Common misconception... the biggest high school shooting, for example, happened in Europe. The whole 'America=Murder' thing is like the Bermuda Triangle: people don't compare their selection with the rest of the world and come to ridiculous conclusions.

That said... what kind of sickos could kill helpless people over a stolen console? Gah, the world is going to crap..."


ok ok, only in America OR Europe

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Good think I sleep with a gun.

Quote: "What good will it do to sue Microsoft over a stolen xbox and murder anyway? That's like sueing Mazda because someone drove your car of a cliff."


Say the brakes failed and there fore it was their fault.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2004 06:08 Edited at: 11th Aug 2004 06:18
Ok Mouse, before questioning the truth of my statements, you should make sure yours are actually true!

Quote: "That's because we have the biggest population ... I haven't seen a single survey that points to us having a higher murder rate BY PERCENTILE. And England has a far higher violent crime rate.
"


Now this is just NOT true!!

Murder rates BY PERCENTILE:

USA: 0,00624%
England: 0,0003%
Canada: 0,0006%
Germany: 0,00021%

So you see USA has a 20 times higher murder rate than England BY PERCENTILE!

(Those statistics are from 1998, the source is German if i can find an English one.
Those numbers are official, there's nothing WRONG about them.)

Quote: "we call a lot of stuff murder that their government doesn't.
"


That's so offencive, you should really stop it!
1. This is only your opinion, tho you state it as a fact, even tho it surely isn't!
2. It's not objective at all!
3. What don't they call murder? Their executions? You don't count them as murders either (tho many ppl including me DO (also those in China )).
If you're talking about Tibet, then what USA does in Afghanistan or Iraq is EXACTLY the same thing!

Quote: "I seriously doubt that and I'd like to see some sources.
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It's true! Search yourself, i don't know so many sources by heart.


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Quote: "That's because we have the biggest population ... I haven't seen a single survey that points to us having a higher murder rate BY PERCENTILE. And England has a far higher violent crime rate.
"

Yeah like at those soccer games were you killed harmless Italian soccer fans

Quote: "Murder rates BY PERCENTILE:

USA: 0,00624%
England: 0,0003%
Canada: 0,0006%
Germany: 0,00021%

So you see USA has a 20 times higher murder rate than England BY PERCENTILE!
"


what about Israel ,and Australia,
oh and Irag????

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Isreal has a very low murder rate, because all the killings are done by Palistinians (I know I misspelled that). I think the highest by percentile in the world has to be somewhere in Africa. I count military killing civilians murder (as in not targeting militants but killing civilians accidently).

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