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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 11th Aug 2004 17:24
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XP SP2 is now out


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Posted: 11th Aug 2004 18:03
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I forgot to add, that if your copy is not legal, the update will probably not work, as it checks the product keys.


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Giles Papworth
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Posted: 11th Aug 2004 18:05
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I have been searching the microsoft website for a while, where is it?

Its not a bug, Its a feature

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John Y
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Posted: 11th Aug 2004 18:43
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Search for the file WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe


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Posted: 11th Aug 2004 19:40
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Or activate automatic download


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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 01:15
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Can I go straight from XP Pro to XP SP2? And what is so much better about SP2? (Just curious)


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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 01:24
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Added security, Internet Explorer improvements (popup blocker, yay), etc.

But forget Internet Explorer, I have seen the light, and it's name is FireFox

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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 01:30
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Here is the list of features:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx

The problem is that Automatic Update does not say the file is released yet, nor does their web site at the moment - it's all "coming soon". Looking at their site you'd think it was still not officially out yet and the lack of a public download implies this also.

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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 01:38
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If you're feeling brave you can download the network deployment version from here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en


~276MB though - normal download will be around ~80MB

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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 02:10
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Apparently it will be available in next week or three using windows update facility but hate to think how slow download will be with so many people downloading such a huge file. I bet even on broadband it will be painful. I'll give it a go though AFTER doing a complete backup of my systems.


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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 02:27 Edited at: 12th Aug 2004 02:36
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According to the download (ie Automatic Update) its the full release version - and thats whats saying in the System Manager icon, and the v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.com site. So, I think you can take it that its been released - unless it shouldn't have been that is...

Anyway, you can go from XP (no SP) or XP SP1 straight to XP SP2

The download size will probably be in excees of 100Mb though

If you had RC1 or RC2 the download will be slightly less

Apparently it is currently only availiable by automatic download.


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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 02:46
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does SP2 include latest .NET framework?


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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 02:48
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Nope


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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 02:50
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I got it but there were some weird alert things and it mentioned a pirated CD key and now the men in black suits are coming to my door with badges. This patch sucks


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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 02:56
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But then thats what you say about all patches...


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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 03:36
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There is a lot of advice for business users to *not* upgrade just yet. There are a lot of programs that are broken by SP2.

It apparently shouldn't be too much of a problem for most home users though - just make sure that you make a backup or activate the system restore system first.

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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 03:40 Edited at: 12th Aug 2004 03:44
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Quote: "There are a lot of programs that are broken by SP2"

Is there ? Microsoft said there may be, but I haven't come across any yet (and my commerical programs work fine too). I have noticed that the promised VS Net 2003 update isn't availiable yet.

The only slight problem I know of is that NAV doesn't register in the security centre - but then that Nortons problem.


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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 04:15
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Enough that IBM have disallowed updates to XP machines until they have amended and tested their windows applications. A lot of other large companies will be doing the same too.

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100 mb = ouch! So is XP SP 2 a new operating system or just a massive upgrade? After trying to upgrade our OS back at y2k I found it better to never change my OS again. Gonna make several System Restore points before attempting this one


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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 05:22
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Quote: "So is XP SP 2 a new operating system or just a massive upgrade?"

If it was a new operating system, it would be called Longhorn. But its not, so it wont be.

Quote: "Enough that IBM have disallowed updates to XP machines until they have amended and tested their windows applications."

In which case they should have been testing on one of the RC versions.


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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 05:46
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Annoying how it keeps warning me about no firewall. I have a damn hardware firewall. Stupid XP. Turn the warning off.... that's better...

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Quote: "Annoying how it keeps warning me about no firewall."

Is the Windows one active ? If not, then what you use may need to be updated as its not interfacing with the security centre.


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Quote: "Is the Windows one active ? If not, then what you use may need to be updated as its not interfacing with the security centre"
Perhaps, but it is a brand new totally patched wireless router (with hardware firewall) that I got the other day. More like they only look for software firewalls.

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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 06:02
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Thats right - in which case the Windows firewall isn't active.


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even if you have a hardware firewall i'd recomend getting a software one anyway as things can slip through hardware ones.

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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 06:28
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I've got the Windows Firewall active + Trends one...


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