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Hell Dragonz43
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Posted: 20th Aug 2004 13:41 Edited at: 20th Aug 2004 13:42
Hi. My computer came with PhotoShop Elements 2.0. I checkd on line and it sells for 100 bucks. But then i see it says "click here to get the full version!". Does this mean Photoshop Elements 2.0 is only a demo and i cant publish anything i make with it? Please help! Thanks.


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JeBuS
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Posted: 20th Aug 2004 13:45
read the EULA
Ilya
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Posted: 20th Aug 2004 13:46
Yes, probably.
The photoshop that came with my Dell is a demo.

indi
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Posted: 20th Aug 2004 13:54
if you bought the pc from a vendor whos puts them together or from a regulated brand like dell etc.. both are required to only install demonstrations / freeware / shareware software or full liscenced software but not illegal warez.

this is not always the case tho in the real world from vendors who sometimes slip on extra software.

If you have a disc with the reinstaller have a look at the readme and the details. Check your invoice in case they added a bundle if your really not sure.


MY guess is you have a demo version as the process to upgrade it is the factor telling me this.


Elements is not photoshop, theres a lot of differences.

Either save up and get photoshop 5 and higher ( 4 was no good) but 5 and higher are all very similar and you can achieve most things with 5 up.

OR consider freeware or cheaper alternatives.

jasc paint shop pro is another cheaper commercial alternative

thegimp is freeware and is free 2d editor with some clout.

texture maker is actually pretty good in combination with the gimp or photoshop.

theres a slew of free ware programs out there which you can use in a linear progression to achieve a result.

canvas6 not 3dcanvasv6 is a good 2d image program and it was free on a magazine a few years back

zonerdraw3 as well.

If no-one gives your an answer to a question you have asked, consider:- Is your question clear.- Did you ask nicely.- Are you showing any effort to solve the problem yourself
las6
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Posted: 20th Aug 2004 17:23
Quote: "but 5 and higher are all very similar and you can achieve most things with 5 up"

correction, 5.5 and up are all very similar and useful. But then again, I believe you can get a patch for 5.0 to change it to 5.5 .


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indi
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Posted: 20th Aug 2004 17:28
yeah v4.0 was a paint in the butt without the history pallete.

I started on 2.5 and then 3.0 shortly afterwards

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Ilya
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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 03:57
Quote: "yeah v4.0 was a paint in the butt without the history pallete."

Don't you mean pain?

Hell Dragonz43
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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 04:46 Edited at: 21st Aug 2004 07:59
... Wow. I dont believe this. VIAO ripped me off. I hate their company so badly right now! They costed me about 1,500 + prossably extra for a Win XP, a BAD graphic card, a stupid ship set, and an extra... Wa? 200 bucks for "FREEWARE"?!?!?! IT SAID PHOTOSHOP COSTED 100 bucks...!!!!! THEY RIPED ME OFF!!!!!!!! GRRR! I had a talk with a professional. Im gona E-mail a complaint, see? And when i do... Uhhhh... I'll be coplaining, see? lol. But seruisly, IM EMAILING THEM ABOUT THIS. I AM SOOOO MAD RIGHT NOW. ALMOST 2,000 BUCKS FOR A STUPID... &^(*#^(*_#(*_#(_^*()&#(<- Edited Out ->^#^@#& COMPPPUUTTTERR!!!??? >

Now i cant release my projects cause i used "photoshop (RIGED STUPID %^#(^^#^#& FREE VERSION)" for the textures.... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please peoplez, correct me if i am wrong. But isn't costing someone 100 bucks for freeware illegal?! Also costing more money for things u can get off the internet... Isn't that illegal?


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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 05:01 Edited at: 21st Aug 2004 05:01
No, it's not illegal. They told you they were including Photoshop with your computer: true, the free version. They told you it cost $100: True, the paid version. 100% legal.

Nice world isn't it ? You have my sympathies.

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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 05:10
whoa cowboy.. spyware is just spyware.. It's not a hacker Go get spybot search and destroy and lavasoft's adaware

Hell Dragonz43
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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 05:30 Edited at: 21st Aug 2004 05:37
Thank u.

Well, thats what my friend told me. Spyware... One of my Viao Programs conntects to Port 5000. I have a feeling thats bad. Now that i think about it, maybe not hackers. lol. Sorry, guess i just jumped to the worst thing possable in this sutiation. But another is a server that runs and does nothing : / Oyah, actually its a picture sharing server. I have NO idea why it runs sometimes (if it does run). Um. Securtiy issue here? lol. Is he right about the spyware?

Yes. And thats what it says they gave me. The paid version of photoshop. LOL! Only, it isn't the paied version, now is it? Either PHOTOSHOP is lying or VIAO.


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bitJericho
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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 05:47
also remove all the crap found in your control panel's add/remove dealy. Then run those spyware removers.

Hell Dragonz43
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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 05:51
Thank u. I'll do that.


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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 05:53 Edited at: 21st Aug 2004 05:54
What exactly is the problem? Photoshop elements costs $100. If you even did the tiniest bit of research like say doing a google search for photoshop elements you would know this.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006ANW9/102-2378175-0248161
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopel/main.html

shrink those dbpro exes
Create patches for your dbpro games
Hell Dragonz43
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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 06:20 Edited at: 21st Aug 2004 07:59
People are saying its only the demo. Doesnt that mean i cant sell any pics i make with it (like 4 my game)?

so i cant use it for my games,right?


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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 08:42 Edited at: 21st Aug 2004 08:46
Quote: "... Wow. I dont believe this. VIAO ripped me off. I hate their company so badly right now! They costed me about 1,500 + prossably extra for a Win XP, a BAD graphic card, a stupid ship set, and an extra... Wa? 200 bucks for "FREEWARE"?!?!?! IT SAID PHOTOSHOP COSTED 100 bucks...!!!!! THEY RIPED ME OFF!!!!!!!! GRRR! I had a talk with a professional. Im gona E-mail a complaint, see? And when i do... Uhhhh... I'll be coplaining, see? lol. But seruisly, IM EMAILING THEM ABOUT THIS. I AM SOOOO MAD RIGHT NOW. ALMOST 2,000 BUCKS FOR A STUPID... &^(*#^(*_#(*_#(_^*()&#(<- Edited Out ->^#^@#& COMPPPUUTTTERR!!!??? >

Now i cant release my projects cause i used "photoshop (RIGED STUPID %^#(^^#^#& FREE VERSION)" for the textures.... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please peoplez, correct me if i am wrong. But isn't costing someone 100 bucks for freeware illegal?! Also costing more money for things u can get off the internet... Isn't that illegal?"


Thats what happens when you buy a pc from a vendor. Do some research, read the reviews at hardware sites, get some suggestions from friends. Then write down the names of hardware parts that are getting high scores in benchmarks and buy them.
You'll end up with a cheap yet powerfull computer. Not a 1500$ turbo-charged 486 + free trial software

If you think you cannot build your own computer, then your wrong. It's just like lego (this is my method). Put the motherboard in the case, install the cpu + heatsink(+fan), install the ram. Install the harddisk(s), cd/dvd/etc-rom drives and other devices. Install the pci / agp card(s) and connect the power/data wires. No big deal actually. (or read the manual)



Hell Dragonz43
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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 08:46 Edited at: 21st Aug 2004 08:48
lol. Thanks. Everyone who said Photoshop Elements is a trial... I think ur wrong. But im still mad cause of the spyware thing my friend told me. lol. One guy tells me theres a hacker, other tells me its just Viao's software acting weird cause its spyware, another tells me its also a hacker, another tells me its not... What am i gona do? LOL.


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Ilya
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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 08:53
Ask them for proof.

Hell Dragonz43
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Posted: 21st Aug 2004 08:53
Good idea. Only reason i care is cause i dont want people to think Viao gives u spyware when it doesnt cause then thats misleading (which is bad). So no one think that just yet. Im gona ask him.


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