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IBOL
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Posted: 28th Sep 2004 17:24 Edited at: 28th Sep 2004 17:26
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i am asking some of the experienced people to put together
a complete, step-by-step tutorial on how to make a working
and SHARABLE .exe file.

my recent attempts have failed miserably, and even caused some fatal errors where it took my computer 45 minutes to just SHUT DOWN after they happened.

i have seen many bits and pieces of information on creating .EXE files using dark basic. and lots of "i've never tried this but it should work..."

but i have never read a full explanation of exactly how to create an executable file using dark basic.

i am asking for DETAILS.
where do i need to put my media files? sure i need to 'ADD' them, but where do they need to go when i give the file to someone else? in a folder? do i need to put this folder in the same folder that the project compiles to? and do i then need to use SET DIR? and then, when the 3rd party gets the game, where do THEY need to put the media? do i need an "installer"? what does an installer really do, anyway? i have 100's of media files necessary to my project; can they all be ADD'ed as a single folder? but then would i need to use some thing like LOAD IMAGE "BTF\IMAGENAME.BMP",13 ? or would it just know?

assume i have the code and the media.
PLEASE ASSUME I KNOW NOTHING ELSE ABOUT THE PROCESS.

this is something that is severely lacking.
FULL DETAILS I BEG YOU!

thanks,
bob
(and i'm using DBPro)
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Posted: 28th Sep 2004 23:47
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Uhm... the "check syntax/make exe" key? F4? Places a working sharable exe in the project folder for me :S

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IBOL
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Posted: 29th Sep 2004 05:44
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YEAH, OK, thanks for going so in depth.
what about ALL MY MEDIA-RELATED QUESTIONS?

what do you do with media?
in absolute detail.
as i said, when i do it , my computer crashes.

what are your fancy tricks?
what are your basic procedures?

come on, experienced guys and girls.
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Cian Rice
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Posted: 29th Sep 2004 05:46
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OMG.
Really you just have all the media in the same folder and you have the load commands be:
load image "hiro.bmp"
rather than
load image "C:/Myprograms/TheGameCretors/Xbox/projects/hiro.bmp"
then you do what Mizipor said.

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blanky
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Posted: 29th Sep 2004 05:51
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Okay...

This is not gonna be easy...

When you choose 'Make EXE with Media' or 'Make Full EXE' or whatever the hell it's called again, anything in the same folder as the .DBA file with the following extensions:

.BMP, .X, .3DS, .AVI, .WAV, .MID, .MIDI

...will be compiled into the EXE also.

And that's it. It's not very smart, or complicated.

So I reckon you should try and keep all your media files in the same folder as the .DBA, and put everything else somewhere else.....

(NOTE: EVEN IF THE MEDIA FILES WILL NOT BE USED, THEY WILL BE COMPILED ANYWAY! NOT-VERY-SMART-DETECTOR-THINGY!!!)

If you just choose 'Make EXE' or whatever, then it makes an EXE with the code in. Full stop.

And oh yeah, if an EXE has got media in it, if there's a file it's told to load that's not in with it, it's where-the-hell-is-that-damn-file feature is the same as a normal EXE.

(e.g, if told to load README.TXT, it will load, outside of the EXE, README.TXT)

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Posted: 29th Sep 2004 06:43
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all right guys,
try this file i made available for download,
and see if it runs on YOUR machine...

http://free.hostdepartment.com/i/ibolrecords/index.html

if it does, use the arrowkeys to move, the mouse to aim,
and the mouse button to shoot.
this is something i threw together to see if it would work.

let me know if it works,
and where you placed the files and things.

thanks,
bob
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OldTifu
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Posted: 29th Sep 2004 08:10
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Just unzipping the .zip to a folder, it works. See, DBpro is genius!!

Your site is evil though, if I wanna left click to save my files I should have that right! VIVA LE LEFT CLICK!
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hey, OK!

do you know what kind of frame rate you got?
(it is the number under the scores at top center)

i get ~18 fps...
but i wonder if my machine is just way slower than
everyone else's ...

thanks again or the confirmation.
now i can get back to PROGRAMMING.

bob
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WoW! Game went so fast all I ever was your dead your dead your dead! I was going from 112-128 fps. Need to slow it down a bit

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oh, yeah,
i changed the available game...

but damn, you get 100fps???

i only get 20!!!!

thanks though...
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Posted: 30th Sep 2004 05:24
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I seem to get around 22 meself... wow I need an upgrade
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Whats the specs on your machine IBOL. The trick is you want it a playable speed on all machines. I have little experence with this since I'new but I know it has to do with timing how long it takes to run then slowing it down probably with waits or something of the nature.

I dunno someone educate he please

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Posted: 30th Sep 2004 20:01
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Isn't this what the 'sync rate' command is for? Or am I horribly confused
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Posted: 1st Oct 2004 06:15 Edited at: 1st Oct 2004 06:18
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[after experimenting...]
yes,
the SYNC RATE command can do that,
though i find that it actually SYNCs at a LOWER rate than the one i specify, even though i have seen it capable of achieving a HIGHER rate than i type...
i would initially say to avoid that.

i am now looking into TIMER-BASED MOVEMENT,
and as it just so happens,
andy igoe has posted today in the DBPro forum about just that...

thanks guys,
bob

[edit]
and hey,
ACTUALLY ON TOPIC:
it seems that i can make a sharable .exe
with just a few steps.
BUT i still don't know what was causing those fatal errors
when i started trying to make them...
just one more thing i am scared of about dark basic
(tied for first on my list of what i'm afraid of about dark basic:
<getting the updates
<using the IDE to save my work.

ok,
now really,
thanks,
bob
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I got 220 FPS ... You really must slow down it a bit.

Put in your code somewhere this(not in the loop):
sync on
sync rate 75

and then the sync command in the loop, maybe that helps

Do you need a complete FPS,3rdPS engine ?? Or a collision command libary?? well here it is:
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=38869&b=6&p=0
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Posted: 1st Oct 2004 07:37 Edited at: 1st Oct 2004 13:22
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SEE ABOVE

[edit from here

ok,
so i did make a slower version for all you people out there.
it's up at the same site,
http://free.hostdepartment.com/i/ibolrecords/index.html
and it DOES use the sync rate command,
but that is NOT what i'm going to use permanently

thanks,
bob
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