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The Real 87
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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 15:37
the below statement is true
the above statement is false.


make that lagitiment and win a banana.

This is my counting program
do: print "87" : loop
Eric T
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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 15:58
In reality the above statement is false, is a True statement. While the below statement is true is a false statement.

Easy...

The Real 87
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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 16:36
you don't make it, you simply thought what the statements wanted you to think and typed it out.

No banana for you.

This is my counting program
do: print "87" : loop
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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 17:33
It's a "classic paradox".

Solving it with recursion with result in a stack overflow.

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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 18:16
both are true because they are false

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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 19:11
you stick another phrase in between

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indi
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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 19:43
u forgot to add a sync

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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 20:10
Quote: "you stick another phrase in between"


That wouldn't work, a statement can't be both true and false, you'd just be creating another paradox.


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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 20:30
Ok then, stick 2 in....

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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 20:32
You guys call yourselves programmers? This is easy.

where the variable 'true' is set to 'the above statement is false' and the variable 'false' is set to 'the below statement is true':

the below statement is true
the above statement is false.

See? It all depends on the values you place on true and false

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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 21:37
Eric T, you're not right.

If the bottom one is true, then the top one is right - so the bottom one is wrong.
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Posted: 6th Nov 2004 22:53
Quote: " the below statement is true
the above statement is false."


The below statement is true.

So the above statement is false.
Which causes the above statement to be "1", and 1 is true.

Quote: "I've seen the word programming and I'm not sure what it means. Anybody please explain?"


Quote: "We shouldn't sacrifice the truth to preserve "balance"."
Eric T
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Posted: 7th Nov 2004 02:04
I stand corrected...

To make this logical it would have to be, as both statements are FALSE to begin with:

The statement below is false
the statement above is false

The Real 87
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Posted: 7th Nov 2004 05:03 Edited at: 7th Nov 2004 05:04
but if both statemnts are false then the botten statment would read...

the above statement is not false.

which would make the above statement true.

and the top statement would read...

the below statement is not true.

This is my counting program
do: print "87" : loop
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Posted: 7th Nov 2004 05:19
The below statement is true
The above statement is false

is just a loop:



do
cls
rem FIRST STATEMENT
if statement_one = 0 then statement_two = 0
if statement_one = 1 then statement_two = 1

rem SECOND STATEMENT
if statement_two = 0 then statement_one = 1
if statement_two = 1 then statement_one = 0

text 5,5,str$(statement_one)
text 5,20,str$(statement_two)
sync
loop


as you can see, no paradox, no stackoverflow, no whatever

just 1010101010010101010101010101010 etc

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Posted: 7th Nov 2004 06:47 Edited at: 7th Nov 2004 06:49
the below statement is true
the above statement is false.

the statement below says it is false, so I guess that's true. Otherwise your logic is incorrect. Your just a nutter. You roll over just after you go to sleep. Isn't that nice.

Perhaps the top statement IS false after all.

bleep bleep
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Posted: 7th Nov 2004 07:04
Computer you freak, stop trying to be funny, your not cut out for it.

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The Real 87
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Posted: 8th Nov 2004 01:21
Emperor Baal you win a banana

(download it below)

This is my counting program
do: print "87" : loop

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The Real 87
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Posted: 8th Nov 2004 01:23
I was waiting for someone to write it in a program. You call yourselves programers.

This is my counting program
do: print "87" : loop
Chris K
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Posted: 8th Nov 2004 01:26
My spooooooon is too big.
The Real 87
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Posted: 8th Nov 2004 01:27
tuesday is comeing did you bring your coat?
I live in a giant bucket.


Do you want to go see a movie?
I am feeling fat and sassy.

This is my counting program
do: print "87" : loop
Chris K
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Posted: 8th Nov 2004 01:28
Where can I download that?

I haven't seen it for ages.
The Real 87
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Posted: 8th Nov 2004 01:30
http://www.5skaggs.com/Life_as_a_Guy.htm

This is my counting program
do: print "87" : loop
indi
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Posted: 10th Nov 2004 18:29
heres a spanner in the works for your problem, if you both agree to disagree then it becomes a positive thing, and that means u agree.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2004 22:23
emporer baal, batvink said solving it with *recursion* would create a stack overflow..

proper recursion code::



that should result in a stack overflow

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