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Ermes
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every time i've to stick with the dbpro ide i ask this at myself:
"where is that damned Guy Savoie???"
Anyone knows where he is??

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Hes gone.....not coming back I dont know what happend exactly some legal issues and money problems Im not sure but he is forever lost to our community.

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Legal issues and money problems are only part of the story - he disappeared for ages without a reason, then came back promising to post his reasons, then never posted again. Apparantly it was all due to hardware failures.

Frankly there was no reason why he could'nt post and let us know what was going on, or his customers for that matter. We did'nt know if he was sick, bankrupt, dead, kidnapped by cats or anything - that personally struck me as completely 2-faced considering the standpoints he'd built himself on RGT.


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Yeah, i was a bit pissed considering i bought DBP from RGT, then needed to inquire about the order for i was promised Character shot or something like that (never got what i was supposed to get with it) and he wouldn't return emails or anything.

Though i heard that he has been active on a magic the gathering forum in the last year... so i'm betting he just turned tail and ran.

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oh well, i had a short mail conversation about problems for save projects and adding media sistems of the editor,about 1.5 years ago, he burned out with a spite of rage and tell me do not waste his time. he was going mad at that time i think. So there's another one for the ide system of dbpro or it is lefts at its own??

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There are a good few IDE replacements - for some reason I still like using the default one, but I can imagine switching soon to one that supports multiple source windows.

I hate when really personal stuff get's dragged onto the boards, it's like throwing a dead whale into the middle of a playground. I don't mean the usual girlfriend troubles or school, I mean the stuff like divorce and death - most of us don't want to deal with that stuff while relaxing on the forums, it's supposed to be an escape.
The GuyS situation dragged out for months, when it's just 1 post it won't bother anybody, but all we had was a bunch of worried customers and a lot of concearned people who considered GuyS a friend. It wasn't too long after his heartwarming tribute to Indi's Kangaroo battle (IIRC the Kanga won with a TKO).

That's something I couldn't do, like just disappear - heck the longest I've stayed away from a DB forum is 1 week, and that was only because I was camping in the highlands.


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Ermes
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that is a sad circumstance, i don't know nothing on Guy, and it's ok anyway for me. Just wondering where he is.
Don't want to deal with stuff like death or divorce or whatever really sad exist. Keep relaxing.

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Official Public Relations reason is, "Guy Savoie after damage to servers in the region of $9,000 was forced to back out as United States publisher over financial issues."

While this is not the entire reason it is part of it, and the part that conserns people. Everything else to do with his situation and reason for 'disappearing' was personal.. this said there is one user on here that could explain the situation from a more inside point of view, but I doubt he will.
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ah, and who's that user? (if i can ask it...)

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I like to think of Guy living it up some place in the DB witness protection program. Where I hope to be one day

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lmao.. yeah change of identity perhaps
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guy did make an ide update before leaving which wasnt officially released, you can get it from llrgt though

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Although it kinda helps not to let on who you are

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Quote: "damage to servers in the region of $9,000"

How'd he do that?...

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He was getting behind on his RGT orders because there was a larger response than he anticipated. After a few nasty events like getting stuck in florida because his wallet stolen (and all his credit card maxed out) he fell further behind. Customers complained to TGC and TGC told them to cancel there orders. Then paypal noticed all the cancled orders and decided it was fraud (locking his account up). The last straw was the servers that crashed and he was left with a hefty bill.

I think there were some other personal problems around the same time too.


Raven, change your name back. It's not fooling anyone.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2005 04:33
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Quote: "Apparantly it was all due to hardware failures."


Hehe - so true

My personal conspiracy theory is that RGT was a loss maker, and was shut down.

Quote: "Raven, change your name back. It's not fooling anyone."


Don't think he's trying to fool anyone. It's been like that for a while. Just because your name is changed doesn't mean there's some elaborate conspiracy

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With mx5 kris it is...

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Wow, good thing I ordered my copy of DBP from TGC. I was mad at myself for doing it after I discovered RGT (because RGT was in the NA and shipping was cheaper). Anyways, that was around the time when they disappeared--- I could've been out.


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Quote: "yep. it is teh conspiracy!!"
I love quote.


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I like raven more with his new name...
I think it really highlights his masculinity. Which i find really attractive in a man.


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I've been dying to ask....what the heck did RGT stand for?

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I see now.
Never been that big on the whole community deal...just chat a bit on boards, the only messenger I have on my PC is MSN because Microsoft Says So.

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Quote: "I think it really highlights his masculinity. Which i find really attractive in a man."


ROFL @ Red Eye.

Thats got to be funniest two liner this week. If we had a competition, it'd win automatically.

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PS: Here is a scary looking other Guy Savoie:

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[quote]Raven, change your name back. It's not fooling anyone."


Don't think he's trying to fool anyone. It's been like that for a while. Just because your name is changed doesn't mean there's some elaborate conspiracy[/quote]

The name hasn't changed at all.. so really don't understand any confusion or comments about it.
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"The name hasn't changed at all"

Leyvin, Raven.. yep, indistinguishable.

and to clear something up - no, Guy was not on a "magic: the gathering" forum. he was on a magic forum - like a performing magician's forum. that was (and still is) his job IRL, not RGT.

"AlecM" (frogger, change your name back, you're not fooling anyone ) has the story right, and he got it from me. not to take credit from him, but really, he did. there were problems beyond just the $9000, which i don't think would be appropriate to divulge here. let's just leave it that the pressure of RGT was really starting to affect his real life in a negative way. it probably wouldn't have lasted much longer even if the servers hadn't been fried.

"when it's done" means "we have no idea, we forgot to do that; we were hoping you would all forget we promised <insert exotic promise here>"
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Quote: "The name hasn't changed at all.. so really don't understand any confusion or comments about it."


Man, now you're stooping low enough to pull a TCA

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Well at least he could have sent the source to the DBP editor to TGC or something. Let this be a lesson. Never include someone elses program with yours unless you have a backup of the source.

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ahah! ahah! look my name!!! a conspiracy! a conspiracy!

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guy went back to being a magician, I found one of his newer forums and made a post about the way he dealt with my domain name that he registered. He deleted the post and would not reply to any emails.

I basically told him to get faunicated after 9 months of trying to contact him.

you can trawl him on the web if you use his name and the word magic in a google search. he wont reply tho.

you could say he did a famous magic trick of dissapearing but hes foolin no one.

lol at kevin with the DB witness protection program haha

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get my name again... (it was Raven for a couple of hours)

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personally i think TCA (or Squidgy The Brick or whatever the hell he is calling himself) should go back to being the toad tickling master, are at least "Toad Coding Area"

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No : New year - New name.

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Well in that case I'm changing my name to...

Fluffy the Goldfish.


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Fine by me...

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I seem to remember GuyS' web site is www.nmisoftware.com I saw that domain used a few times in email addresses etc.

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He's on the contact list on that site...

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I know

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I seem to recall there's some difficulty translating a Japanese letter into English and it's sometimes La/Le and sometimes Ra/Re... perhaps Raven's playing on that.

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Nice to see someone has a good grasp of thier languages beside English.
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I wanna be "happy beagle the purple hamster demi god of cat meow", perhaps not actually.

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Quote: "I seem to recall there's some difficulty translating a Japanese letter into English and it's sometimes La/Le and sometimes Ra/Re... perhaps Raven's playing on that."


Although the Japanese don't pronounce their L's properly either. Lanko is pronounced Danko but the 'D' is a light d sound.


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I think I may have an idea what happened to GuyS

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