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DarkBASIC Discussion / Music royalties - What formats are royalty free?

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P Schnell
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I don't want to use wavs, because they are so large, and I don't want to use MIDI (Unless someone knows how to stop the looping lag.)

MP3 has a royalty fee that you have to pay if you distribute a number of copies of your app, and I wouldn't want to pay that.

Are there any music formats such as MPEG or MPEG2 that don't require royalties? (I don't know if those two do or not, they are just good/okay quality.)

And of course, DarkBasic has to be able to run them.

Thanks for any help!
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Sol462
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correct me if i am wrong, but royalties are if someone else owns the work. if you made it, you don't pay.

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Emperor Baal
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Posted: 13th Feb 2005 17:34
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No, not exactly, when selling a ? amount of games you'll have to pay for using MP3.

The only way to avoid this, is by using other music formats. OGG is a very good royalty-free format, but DBPRO doesnt support it, unless you use a DLL.

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P Schnell
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Quote: " correct me if i am wrong, but royalties are if someone else owns the work. if you made it, you don't pay."

Aparently, the MP3 format itself is owned by the company that produced it, so you pay for using the format, not the music itself.

Quote: "OGG is a very good royalty-free format, but DBPRO doesnt support it, unless you use a DLL."

Does OGG work on DBC, and if so, where can I find the DLL for it?
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BatVink
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OGG is available in the enhancement pack for DB Pro...but it's flawed. You can't set the volume, or use the is playing() functionality. Still waiting for the fix...

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Steve Fash
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Posted: 13th Feb 2005 22:33
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If you are using DBClassic (enhanced) then use XM format.
I have some freebie tunes in XM format on my site (not updated for a long time mind) you can use if you like..failing that you can get XM mods from lots of sites on the net
http://www.futuredevelopments.org.uk

For game/demo music for YOUR PC productions visit:-www.futuredevelopments.org.uk
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Where can I find an encoder for XM from another format? (WAV, MPEG, MP3, MIDI)

And XM works on the DBC Enhanced without any DLLs?

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Mr Pointless
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Posted: 14th Feb 2005 03:32 Edited at: 14th Feb 2005 03:33
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You can't. XMs are much different from wav,mpeg,mp3.

They're similar to MIDI as they store the notes in the XM file, but differ in that you can add your own samples to the file, as opposed to the MIDI instruments that are stored on your sound card. Sounds better too, if you're a good musician.

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P Schnell
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Then could you recommend a MIDI to XM converter?
I'm assuming there isn't any lag dbetween loops, is there?

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hyrichter
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I have the answer for your midi looping problem. It's actually very simple. You load your music, then "play music 1" Then just add this to your main loop:



Doing it that way, it loops perfectly.


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Thanks, I'll try that when I get home.

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Mr Pointless
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Quote: "Then could you recommend a MIDI to XM converter?"


I don't think there is such a thing. There are a few XM creation tools out there that might let you import MIDI data but they might only import the notes.

If you want to hear what an XM could sound like, have a dig through any freeware games you have, and look for XMs. Tetra Blocks is a good example. Class music.

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BearCDPOLD
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I seem to recall that you do not need the dll if the user has the .ogg codec. You might want to have the user just download that.

Of course, could just be my brain on drugs.

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P Schnell
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Actually, hyritcher's code worked perfectly, thanks for all your help, and I did find some MIDI to XM programs.

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