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Geek Culture / Programming apathy

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adr
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Posted: 16th Feb 2005 19:05
There was a time (about 2 weeks ago) when I'd come home, fire up the laptop and there simply wouldn't be enough time to get all the cool ideas I had in my head, onto the screen. Infact, I currently have about 3 projects that I'd consider "open"; an RPG in PHP, learning C# and my space shoot 'em up in DBP.

Now, all of a sudden I can't be arsed. Last night I joined the channel and started up #develop... and I didn't do a thing. I've just become bored with programming after a hard day's work. This has happened before to me... and then, without warning, I get back into hobby programming.

Does any one else suffer from a similar, seasonal boredom?


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Dave J
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Posted: 16th Feb 2005 19:18 Edited at: 16th Feb 2005 19:18
Yup, although it usually happens when I run into an elusive bug.


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Posted: 16th Feb 2005 19:57
Yup. Happened to me about 2 or 3 weeks ago. D/loaded Newton and suddenly I'm back on track.

Sometimes it's good to set yourself a related task or challenge that you don't know how to solve right now.

Sometimes it's good to just take a break. Just make sure you write down where you were with everything first.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2005 20:49
I think everybody gets to that point. My recipy is doing something completely different, that has nothing to do with programming. Eventually the mind will turn back to what you were doing in code. But it might take a day, or two, or more.

My standard 'completely different'-thing is to write something. I usually kick the guy that does our text creation onto something else. Something boring that I don't want to do.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2005 21:02
I have the same problem myself - when I'm coding at work, I don't code so much at home, and vice versa. I'm just reading a lot ATM.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2005 21:03
Without trying to sound like a sad git - I can't imagine not wanting to code these days. I've been doing it for so long that it's part of my everyday life, I'm more likely to get sick of watching TV or something like that. If I get a project-stopper of a bug, I can't relax until I have a way around it or a fix - my brain just won't shut up about these things - especially when I'm trying to sleep.

I am a bit more sensible these days though, it used to be that I'd code till the wee small hours, then have to get up at 7am for work, which is daft. I only really work late at weekends - I find it's better to shut that PC down and watch some late night comedy shows to wind down. When I find myself staring at the screen trying to remember what I was doing, that's usually when I call it a day.

Maybe you just need to recharge those batteries so you can get back into it properly, watch some bad TV and some cheesy films - I doubt it'll take long for you to return to the warm, cosy bussom of coding.


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Posted: 16th Feb 2005 21:23
chat is a good waste of time
adr
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Posted: 16th Feb 2005 22:48
Quote: "My recipy is doing something completely different, that has nothing to do with programming."


I seem to remember the last time I got into this state, I discovered games for my xbox maybe I should rediscover "play time"....

Quote: "If I get a project-stopper of a bug, I can't relax until I have a way around it or a fix"

Oh I'm the same, but I'm not bored because I can't fix something, I'm bored because... uhh.... I'm bored.


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Posted: 16th Feb 2005 23:11
'seasonal boredom' is very apt. I am programming all day on writing boring accounting software and boring websites, so the thought of coding games in the evening just doesn't appeal at the minute. The cold weather doesn't help either but at least I work from home and don't have to trudge to work every morning.

Hopefully once spring arrives and my current hefty workload is out of the way, then I'll get back to coding. I've got some great ideas and all the fancy tools like NGC, Milkshape, etc but just need the inclination to start something.

Boo!
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Posted: 17th Feb 2005 02:41
I work with boring VB code from morning to late afternoon. When I finally get home, I'm usually too tired to get back to coding on my projects (Which are stupidly immense projects, but I don't plan on finishing any time soon). In times like these I view forums a lot, maybe too much, to the point of actually helping out n00bs (not the n00bs on this forum though, I can't stand most of the n00bs here).

Last year I started work on what was at the time, my largest project: WarBasic. I took all year to get it to where it is now, after a lot of obsesive coding. This year I haven't been nearly as productive, as my sig will tell.

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Posted: 17th Feb 2005 02:44 Edited at: 17th Feb 2005 02:45
And he never goes online any more so my sarcastic comments can't spur him on...



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Posted: 17th Feb 2005 04:28
Adr, we need to figure something out dude. I'm the same. It's mainly because I can't be arsed to get it all going at any one time. There's far too much to do and I can't be arsed to do it all. I'd rather make myself a cup of tea and watch Country Ways sometimes (not literally, obviously).

I've figured out the things that hold my interest and what messes with my flow:
- I can make sound effects and music forever.
- I can program adding new things forever (a new weapon, a particle system, a blood system, a limb loss system etc)

What bores me and messes up my creativty is:
- Having to chop and change between modelling and coding inorder to code with something actually on screen.
- Having to code really complex things like advanced physics (I get bored trying to solve the problems).
- When I have another idea that seems better to me at the time (old project goes on hold)

And what pisses me off is I'm perfectly capable of making pretty much any type of game there is. I can code pretty much anything needed as I have about 10 years of coding under my belt and many many projects. The only thing I'm not confident about coding is advanced physics (e.g. a tumbling rigid body car with tyre friction and suspension), although I can code physics well enough to have accurate ball physics, flight physics etc.

The thing which holds me back is lack of pace of a project. I can't finish a project on my own. I need someone else constantly churning out 3D models and level and textures. I need someone to be pumping out high quality media so that I can put equally high quality code, music and sound effects behind it.

I simply can't do that all on my own and make the calibre of games I want to make and know I am capable of making.

That's my apathy. Mine comes from realism. But it's so easily solvable if some guru modeller/level designer/texturer/ ANIMATOR (nobody seems to be able to animate well), was prepared to put a bit of faith in me and make media for my newest ninja title.

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Posted: 17th Feb 2005 05:37
I too have this problem. When I was coding for the last TGC competition, I stopped for nearly two months because I was so bored with anything programming related! I was also working full-time in a place where I was on the computer all day, and that didn't help.

With my music it's been nearly a year since I've finished my last song. My friends always ask if I have anything new and I feel like I've hit a writer's block.


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Posted: 17th Feb 2005 06:08
Same with music here. I've not hit a writers block, but I'm not motivated to write music either. There's not enough free time to sit down and waste it just making games and writing music for fun anymore. I have load of tunes on the go from where I give it 3 or 4 hours and then put it down. I'll polish one of those off at some point.

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Posted: 17th Feb 2005 19:33
I'm pretty rash. I uninstalled almost all dev tools I have (except vb6 and devc++) because my hdd was running out of space. I'm using this time to learn to get creative.


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Posted: 17th Feb 2005 21:15
Here's an old thread for inspiration...

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=17213&b=2

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Peter H
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Posted: 18th Feb 2005 01:05
i hit this over christmas break...i didn't work on my game for a month

but i feel like starting up again so i'll go do that instead of reading teh forumz

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Posted: 18th Feb 2005 01:17
Seems I'm in the same boat as Fallout... It's been, erm, five days (I think) since I've started anything decent music wise (and this is coming from somebody who once churned a track in three hours just for the heck of it ) Game wise... well I don't realyl have much time to program stuff, but idk WHY OH WHY did TGC have to release fpsc??? It's totaly cheapened fps games I'm not saying I'm not going to buy it or anything (as a matter of fact I'd buy it just for the level building arrangment)

I can work on specific things for insane streches of time (like 4 hours for teh weapons code) But the thing I can't do is get a project off the ground Once I do then I'm home free--but until then... It's all in the "getting units stright" or the "deciding on overall idea" things Which totaly sux0rz

I was going great until I got sick over thanksgiving... after which I never picked up speed again. Once you consider I got sick over christmas as well, that's not too hard to imagine Since then I haven't been able to start anything. AND IT SUX0RZ!

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