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Geek Culture / Windows NT ctrl+alt+del screen

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JoelJ
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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 07:23


it's actually in XP Pro that i want to know, but this is an NT screen, you can disable it in XP. but i need to know the name of that process if at all possible.


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Benjamin
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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 07:28
taskmgr.exe?


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JoelJ
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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 07:31 Edited at: 4th Mar 2005 07:31
wrong. that's not the taskmanager


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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 07:45
It is part of the administrator only privilages. I can not remember what the name of it is though.

Quite likely to be winlogout.exe, as Windows XP uses just winlogon.exe for the standard set-up.
What I would recommend is checking your Task Manager, then compare it to someone who does not have that given service running. You will soon be left with some obvious choices.

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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 16:26 Edited at: 4th Mar 2005 16:27
Its part of GINA, but I dont know what services/dlls that incorporates though.

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Posted: 5th Mar 2005 06:53
Quote: "What I would recommend is checking your Task Manager, then compare it to someone who does not have that given service running. You will soon be left with some obvious choices."

the problem with that is, when you open task manager, that closes


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Posted: 5th Mar 2005 06:59
I know that that's run on a separate desktop, hence why all your windows disappear

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Benjamin
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Posted: 5th Mar 2005 07:08
A seperate desktop?


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Posted: 5th Mar 2005 10:21 Edited at: 5th Mar 2005 10:21
Quote: "A seperate desktop?"


A new explorer process, perhaps?


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Posted: 5th Mar 2005 11:04
That same box appears in Windows XP. It's just the standard Network Computer thing. It happens when the computer is connected to a network with logons.

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Posted: 7th Mar 2005 03:47
dude do you have to have that as your sig?

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Quote: "A new explorer process, perhaps?"

Erm, programs don't run 'from' explorer. I mean, you don't have to have an explorer process running to have programs running.


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IanG
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Posted: 7th Mar 2005 06:07 Edited at: 7th Mar 2005 06:09
why dont you switch it on and off and then have a look at what proccess appear / change

it is part of gina as gina controls the conrol alt delete sequence

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Posted: 7th Mar 2005 10:57
you cant watch it, because when you press the c-a-d buttons, IT pops up BEFORE you can check the taskmngr, you cant have both


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Posted: 8th Mar 2005 05:48 Edited at: 8th Mar 2005 05:49
mek an app to record what process are open when then when you press cad note down the time and then look in the log of your app and see what processes opened up

another way - you could look thru all the resources in the possible momdules in the windows dir for the screen

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Posted: 8th Mar 2005 10:41
i tired that actually, aaaaaaand there isnt one, so i've come to the conclusion, it runs off another process OR it's not listed


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Posted: 9th Mar 2005 04:35
i belive it is c:\windows\system32\taskmgr.exe but it just loads differently when there is a different registry key for it.

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Posted: 9th Mar 2005 04:43
Quote: "A seperate desktop? "


Windows has the ability to hold several 'desktops' and switch between them.

http://vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Code/Libraries/Windows/Creating_New_Desktops/article.asp

Quote: "All varieties of Windows NT since 3.51 include the ability to create and run multiple desktops. Normally, this feature isn't used, and all applications run within the "Default" desktop. However, if you want to create a kiosk-style application which has a full-screen interface, and prevents Ctrl+Alt+Del or any of the other standard Windows options from being accessed, then this technique is the way to do it.

About Desktops
Windows NT is divided at the top level into Window Stations and Desktops. More than one of each of these objects can be present at the same time, but only one Desktop within one Window Station can be interactive at any time. The definitions of Window Stations and Desktops can be looked up in more detail at MSDN; here's a quick overview:

A Window Station contains a clipboard, global atoms and any desktops. The Window Station assigned to the logon session of the interactive user also contains the keyboard, mouse and display device. Only this Window Station can be displayed to the user, or receive user input.
A Desktop has a logical display surface and contains windows, menus and hooks. Only one desktop at a time is active. The active desktop is called the Input Desktop and is the one that is displayed to the active user and that receives user input.
Under Windows XP, you will find that a logged on Windows Station typically contains three desktops:

Default - where Explorer (normally) runs and where you spend most of your time.
Winlogin - where the login screen is shown.
Disconnect - used by Terminal Services."


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