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Lord Ozzum
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Top Ten Bands/Singers as follows:


10) Michael Jackson - Ignore the (false) charges of being a pedofile. He's a great singer.

9) Elton John - He's just Elton John, that should be enough for anyone.
8) Metallica - Older Metallica was awesome.

7) Iron Maiden - I don't what I like about Iron Maiden. They just kick so much @ss.

6) The Animals - Ahh, The Animals are great. Go now and listen to them.

5) Halford - This is Rob Halford's solo-career. What can I say? It beats Judas Priest somehow.

4) Led Zeppelin

3) Mercyful Fate - You have to hear them. Well, what are you waiting for??? Go get Don't Break the Oath or Melissa.

2) Ozzy Osbourne

1) Black Sabbath ( Ozzy years, though Dio is a great singer as well.)

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any1 heard Fat Boy Slim's new album "Palookaville" ... i'm not an obsessive music listener or anything, but this album is simply stunning ... i've been listening to it for about 3 weeks at least once a day, and im no where close to getting bored of it ...

its amazing how he just manages to re-invent himself, seeing as the music in this album is very different than his older stuff


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Quote: "Most people say the bends but I loved Pablo Honey, still listen to it loads not so keen on the newer stuff though"


Quote: "Radiohead on the other hand... awesome. Although you need anti-depressants to listen. And what is it with new bands (eg Keane) sounding *exactly* like Radiohead did like half a decade or more ago. Sheesh."


Quote: "Agreed, Radiohead is great. But even their stuff is starting to sound all the same to me. Perhaps I'm having hearing loss?? :p
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I need to stop coming to this thread at 7am when my brain is fried from programming. Anyhoo...

(1) Agreed. Radiohead was cutting edge up to "Hail to the Thief," and with so many bands ripping off their style nowadays they really needed to do something innovative. But I suppose after five albums of innovation the brain gets sleepy (much like mine is now, hehe)

(2) Why does everyone say Radiohead is depressing? I mean, really: "And now we are one in everlasting peace" [exit music] or "You want me? Well ---- you and come and find me, I'll be waiting, with a gun & a pack of sandwiches, you're nothing" [talk show host] ... they aren't depressing, Just a bit scary, hehe. Agreed. Keane, Coldplay, and even the Deftones for a while (who blatently stole a Radiohead song, then lied and claimed they wrote it, ugh) are all bands that need to have an original thought grace their brain-cells.

(3) In lieu of comments (1) & (2), I think it's just the influx of bands that have been stealing Radiohead's sound lately.

Okay, I'll stop yapping now, hehe, but I have to say this: I'm a pretty nice guy most of the time, or I try to be anyway, so here's a rare occasion where I say something mean. Ready for it? Here we go: Linkin' Park, Limp Bizkit, and all of the other ghouttee metal bands consist of poster children for post-natal abortion. They've been filling the music industry with trek for the past few years and I think it's time for a talented band to emmerge and change the face of music before the bad parts of the 80's happen all over again. Fine Young Cannibals drove ME crazy and if I weren't ages 1-9 throughout the 80's I'm sure I would have considered working in a postal office, if you catch my drift

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Posted: 18th Mar 2005 08:57 Edited at: 18th Mar 2005 08:59
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Quote: "hy does everyone say Radiohead is depressing? I mean, really: "And now we are one in everlasting peace" [exit music]"


have u listened to the lyrics in exit music (for a film), correct me if im wrong, but its about a teenage couple who love each other running away from an oppresive parent or parents, then i believe thye commit suicide, or they make love, that's what i get from "And now we are one in everlasting peace, we hope that you choke". i almost cry after listening to that song. i still listen to it cause its awesome, infact that whole album is awesome. But anyone know for sure what that song is about? cause im just speculating over the lyrics here.

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Quote: " any1 heard Fat Boy Slim's new album "Palookaville""


Yes, I like Fat Boy Slim, too! I must find this album

I remember in 1999 a few buddies and I drove from Vancouver to the Palm Springs area for a 2-day concert, Coachella. It was one of my top-five greatest memories--- sleeping in the back of his suburban in the Wal-Mart parking lot, talking about girls hehe. Then his battery died on the way out and we had to pay tons of money to a Palm Springs mechanic for a new battery.

This was the first year for Coachella, but there were about 90 bands to watch! Beck, Moby, Chemical Brothers, Pavement, Invisibl Skratch Piklz, Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Morrissey, Perry Farrell, Jon Spencer, Ben Harper, Cibo Matto, and like 80 others. It was amazing.


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One thing that gets me going more than kids who think that just because the first time they heard a band dissing something then it was the first time its ever been done...is a large number of radiohead fans, ok the worst probably arnt here but if i talk to some guy who worships radiohead and i tell him im not too keen on most of their stuff as it sounds dull...to be told that i obviously cant understand the deep yada yada and the social and moral yada yda and its impact on all of humanity...its about this moment i pull the double barrel out shove it up his ar*e and blow his teeth threw his musicaly gunged up head.....damn people make me mad.

Ok maybe i went too far as there was only mind radiohead support but i still hate alot of the fans...

as far as what im currently listening to...its mostly
Queen
Ray Charles-the movie was cool and i had to listen to more of hs stuff
Dragon Force- ahh stupidly fast meaningless powermetal...damn good fun !
BeeGees - dunno why recently but i hadnt really listened to much of their stuff so im going through a few albums

The killers - on the way home from work its whats normaly on...or maybe some stranglers

Mozart the other day- Shawshank redeption, 'the marriage of figaro' started me on that again, that stuff is beutiful

Gwar - Right now...offensive and funny as hell

and lots of comedy..mainly goon show and stuff recently, my english coursework is on comedy at the moment.

yeah thats a bout it at the mo ... i think its a nice mix...hmm missing some thin lizzy though
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Quote: "thats pretty much the jist of all of their songs, whiney teens singing about how they don't wanna grow up to be like their parents."


Are you talking about Linkin Park? I'm confused.

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yes. yes i was.

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Posted: 18th Mar 2005 13:44
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Wow my threads gone red in 2 days, amazing I think thats a record. Lots of mixed attitudes toward greenday and others. I have to say I like them now but next month will probably be a new or different group and I will be sick of listening to AMERICAN IDIOT 100+ times.
@the U2 dissers- How can you diss U2 they were the original and Vertigo Is such a cool song I mean Honestly 1...2....3...14 14! what other song screws up numbers that bad??
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Posted: 18th Mar 2005 15:15
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Quote: "How can you diss U2 they were the original"


The original... what?


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Don't even get me started on U2.

I like 'The Fly', and that's about it - that's about as much as I can take of those damn guitar effect pedal melodies and irrelevant whining about potatoes and sick kiddies. Vertigo, I don't understand what he's on about, apart from when he goes 'Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah' - that means he was meant to go back to that bit and put in some lyrics but was already late for the iPod commercial shoot.

Glad I did'nt get started on U2, or their album-release friendly charity work.

Incidently, as this thread seems to be in no hurry to die - What's everyones fave GreenDay song?

Mines is Brain Stew (on my own, here we go...).


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Posted: 18th Mar 2005 20:28
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I heard pretty much every album they ever released and even remixes and some of the stuff they did for Matrix Reloaded and I never once heard those lyrics. (Not to mention they are not teens, which you might have been joking about. I duno. That pirate smily alwasy confuses me)

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Posted: 18th Mar 2005 20:38 Edited at: 18th Mar 2005 20:38
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Quote: "What's everyones fave GreenDay song?"

Basketcase(I think thats the one anyway..)


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Quote: "cool empty, did you see them recently? My dad saw them multible times in their hey-day, I wanna go see them, I've heard a second tour is on the way with (rumored) Weezer"

Nah not recently. But I saw them 1990 or 1991 (after Bossanova), and Frank Black solo a couple of years later on a festival.


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I'm not really a Green Day fan. but in terms of their style, their a great example of a band that works. It's better to have a cohesive group of players, than a group of show pony's trying to be virtuoso's. Imagine Green Day, with 'Mike Portnoy' behind the kit. Not a pleasant image.

One point I would like to make, is simply that the value of a piece of music isn't determined by it's complexity. If you look through the most popular pop songs over the past 30/40 or more years. Their aren't many 'flight of the bumble bee's' in the list.

Favorite album at the moment is "Mind Traveling" by Emerald Cave.. People tend overly analyze music way too much, if you like it, then it's good.

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Quote: "I heard pretty much every album they ever released and even remixes and some of the stuff they did for Matrix Reloaded and I never once heard those lyrics. (Not to mention they are not teens, which you might have been joking about. I duno. That pirate smily alwasy confuses me)"


you're right they arent the exact lyrics, but that is the jist of their songs, teenage rebellion, that is their image, and they totally suck. no wwhere are my level textures

as for u2 and their latest album, well if i cna post a new link to maddox...
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst

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Quote: "One point I would like to make, is simply that the value of a piece of music isn't determined by it's complexity. If you look through the most popular pop songs over the past 30/40 or more years. Their aren't many 'flight of the bumble bee's' in the list."

Well put.

Quote: "People tend overly analyze music way too much, if you like it, then it's good."

Well put.


Quote: " Favorite album at the moment is "Mind Traveling" by Emerald Cave"

Awww, thank you.


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Quote: "you're right they arent the exact lyrics, but that is the jist of their songs"


You clearly did not understand the message in thier songs.

Quote: " teenage rebellion, that is their image"



Seriously Rob, are we talking about the same band here? I have no idea why you got that "teenage" immpression.

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The original... what?"


Damn it Jeku, you stole my post to the letter. That's kind of freaky

U2 was not original anything.

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Quote: "But anyone know for sure what that song is about? cause im just speculating over the lyrics here. "


A lot of people will tell you that Exit Music [for a film] was written for the Romeo & Juliet soundtrack, but this is false. The song was written before they started writing the script for it! Exit Music, like the rest of OK computer, fits into the "rock opera" style that the album went for. Do this: Put in OK Computer and listen to it from start to end, Airbag to The Tourist, in one sitting. If you read along with the lyrics as you listen you'll realize that the entire album is one big story, with certain varied perspectives of some events. In brief:
1 - there's a car accident
2 - the guy is having kooky dreams
3 - a young girl watched the accident
4 - the guy who caused it, a truck driver, has to deal with his feelings of guilt
5 - a creepy doctor helps recover the accident's main victim
6 - the victim gets released and goes home but nothing's the same
7 - the victim ends up killing himself

Okay, you know what? I guess that is kind of depressing, hehe.

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Lot of support for U2 eh?? I guess they can be over popular, honestly their concert in vancouver sold out in 8 minutes and when they decided to do another it sold in I think 14 minutes?? Probably because no one knew they were doing it till the tickets were ob sale
My Fav greenday song would either be "Boulevard" or perhaps "Holiday" they both have A good chorus to them and that is nice.
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I love radiohead but I rarely listen to it, It's almost embarassing when people hear what your listening to - so depressing but awesome songs nonetheless.


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lol stuff them van b, listen to radio head, and matt i was un aware of that, i will have to go over it again later tonight and see if i pick that up. and megaton stop having a cry linkin park totally suck so leave it alone

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Radiohead likers should listen to Muse, very similar but still original. I like U2's older stuff (War is a brilliant album), with the exception of some good singles.

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Quote: "I like U2's older stuff (War is a brilliant album), with the exception of some good singles."


Erm...

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Meaning there are some singles from their 90's album that I like

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Its nice to see that mods are setting an example by themselves posting single 3 letter words in posts. Not.


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Anything for the community!

Quote: " Meaning there are some singles from their 90's album that I like"


Well, you said you liked their older stuff, with the exception of some good singles

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i hate muse purely for the fact that they are stealing radio heads jive, its hard to tell teh difference between teh two bands cause muse are an exact copy of radio head, i mean come on get your own jive try hards.

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Back to the original topic, personally, I really like green day's music. I don't really like their whole goth style thing but I like listening to pretty much all of their music except for Governator which I think is terrible. Also about the 10 most downloaded thing, on iTunes, they have a top 10 downloaded and boulevard is still in 4th, (it started at 1st). Im not saying that green day is the best band ever, I just like their music, and other people don't. Its the same as Halo, lots of people like halo, but that doesn't make it the best, it just means that a lot of people happen to like it.

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Muse annoy me, they have this potential to be a band like Radiohead, but they're lacking something - not sure exactly what that is though. I think it's probably the lyrics, I'm very much into 'meaningful' lyrics, like with KoRn, you can expect songs about abuse, with GD you can expect songs about being a sniveling goth, with Radiohead you can expect songs about misery. Haven't got a clue what sort of songs Muse make, I'm guessing it's the usual pop dissidence of being so tired they can't sleep and all that hogwash that nobody with any sense ever relates to. I actually prefer Feeder to Muse, I have more respect for pop bands when they get people motivated instead of going the easy 'angsty' route.


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I can never tell what the Muse or Radiohead singer is saying, but they got some awesome vocal ranges, along with Daniel of the Darkness

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