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kfoong
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is there any free 3D modeler anywhere on the internet? I would really like to know please.
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Yea they are all over the place:
Anim8or: www.anim8or.com
Wings3D: www.wings3d.com
G-Max: www.discreet.com

Id suggest just paying the 20 for milkshape (www.milkshape3d.com)

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kfoong
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I would but i dont think my parents would be too happy about that...

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Well, ok then, try those out You must be a kid- well I am too Just play around with those modellers till ya get good then try and convince them to let you buy milkshape

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Epidemicz
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Milkshape is well worth it.

Is it just me or is my posting box all of a sudden left aligned instead of center? lol

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kfoong
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I know its well worth it, ive tried it. any way im 15

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mightymax
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Sorry to "open" this topic again but it seemed better than making a new one...

Can you convert models you make in GMax to .x or .3ds files?

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eGuy
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Yes, but not directly.

You need to download the Tempest gamepack from the Gmax website and at least install the plugins that come with it. You will then be able to export to .MD3 format which many file conversion utilities (Milkshape, 3D Explorer) can change to .x or .3Ds files.

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mightymax
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thanks eGuy, that is very helpful.

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kfoong
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whats that got to do with a free 3d modeler?

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mightymax
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Sorry, I am trying to decide which free modeler to get, GMax or anim8tor. You see, there is a faint connection... Isn't there?

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Yea but you cant use Gmax models in a game

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eGuy
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I use Gmax, myself. I found Anim8tor unintuitive, but that's just a personal preference. You CAN use Gmax models in games with a minor workaround, plus it allows you to use most of the Scripts that work with 3D Studio Max, such as Chilliskinner, which makes texturing much, much easier.

There are also tons of tutorials and support out there for Gmax, which I think is just going to grow over time.

Just my opinions.

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mightymax
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Am I right in thinking GMax is just a cut down version of 3D Max? What is missing?

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eGuy
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Yes, it is essentially 3D Max Lite. Most of what's missing is the higher end graphics functions and rendering. It's primary focus is game modelling, so it has limited abilities otherwise (for example, animation controls are fairly basic, though functional). Personally, I think it's great and makes a great stepping stone to learn 3D Max if you think you might ever want (or can afford) to try that out.

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lol

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MattIsFun
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Well, both are free, so you should probably just get both. I can't seem to get Anim8or to export animation information, though. I'm downloading JTEdit, another freeware modeler, right now. http://www.jtgame.com/jtedit/jteditmain.html

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Troan
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how much for 3d studio max?

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Around $4000. Dont even try cracking it because the models show up in code

Or else I will just have to add you to my list of crackers to never talk to or help

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actarus
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Your list must be HUGE

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kfoong
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anim8or, wings3d are free but they cant animate .x files or .3ds files and gmax has a lot of strings attached to it.

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Then animate them in DB

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kfoong
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ok then

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nhonetschlager
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ok. i am a very beginner to all this progamming and game creating stuff. i would like to know what is a good way to start, what to get, what to do etc. any help is welcome.

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kfoong
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lol. why is your post here?

anyway experiment with the tutorials and read the manual .

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Mike Inel
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I use Milkshape 3D, and it's good!, the only thing you can't do in Milkshape is that you can texture a pic with transparent in it.

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im not sure but i think to put transparency just put black stuff on it and ghost it using db. but im not sure

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kfoong
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RPGamer, do you know how to animate them in db by loading loads of 3ds's and joining them together?

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sigh... maybe i have to do myself...


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You load up all the objects and make meshes from them all, MAKE MESH FROM OBJECT. Then use ADD LIMB to add them all to the initial object, and LINK LIMB to create the hierarchy. Use OFFSET LIMB to get the limbs in the right places, and then ROTATE LIMB to animate them.

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darthster you use anim8or dont you? what do you do for animated objects in DB?

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Milkshape is the idea solution for most people, its cheap and quite powerful, in addition it is updated fairly quickly and new export/import plugings are developed all the time. A good addition to your 3d tool kit would be 3d Unwrap.. for your texturing needs. The next in line I feel would be 3D Canvas, quite powerful and updated on an ongoing basis, although a bit more expensive then Milkshape. Softy 3d is a neat little program if you want an interesting and easy way to make oraganic looking models. I would realy stay away from playing around with Gmax exports.. its not realy legal if you look through the agreements. I think for a 100 USD you can realy equip yourself with very decent software. (for those of you who need a great 2d software.. use GIMP there is a windows version and its just as powerful as most of the commercial software, and the great thing is that its free) Here is my budget development package:

Milkshape 3D www.milkshape3d.com
Canvas 3D PRO www.amabilis.com
Softy 3D www.softy3d.com
Ultimate Unwrap3D www.unwrap3d.com
CharacterFX www.insanesoftware.de
Light Map Maker www.windssoft.com

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hey

It depends on what u whana model
I use Zmodeler alot coz I'm in to carsim's
http://zmodeler.nfscheats.com/
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well, i personally do it the make mesh from object and add limb way, you can save the mesh and then just use a load command in you're final program to save space in whatever fantasic toys you're making, the one problem i've been having tho and pls don't call me thick (I'll cry), I can't for the life of me work out how to texture .3ds models, i know it's gonna be ded simple but i still can't work out how its done, i use 3ds max if that helps......

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HOw do you export .x in Gmax

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Murdock: You dont. Gmax is fussy. Plus, you cant use the models in a game without a $50,000 license.

Kfoong: Yea just load them all up, have one 'base' object, attach the rest as limbs, then you could use Kent's animation function, but I would just recommend making your own function like "walk" but moving the limbs. Or use Kents thing, never have before but I bet its good

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what if I was the only one playing?
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If your going to release it, then ya gotta pay If you want to develope it for yourself, just for your own enjoyment and no one elses, go ahead!

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Gmax models can be used in games but only if you don't plan on selling them they must be distributed freely.

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how do you take .map and make them .x a link to get a compiler would be nice.
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I'll ask you ppl again because I do not know how do you export .x or 3ds in gmax?????\Christian

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You can't.

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I mean indirectly not from the program
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