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re faze
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i just bought this, to upgrade from my intel graphics controller, but it seems i get even less fps with this one! anyone have suggestions for settings, or bios options?
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Ric
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Posted: 13th Apr 2005 09:20 Edited at: 13th Apr 2005 09:21
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Quote: "i just bought this, to upgrade"




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Agent Dink
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My suggestion, is get a better card than the GeForce 2 mx400... That card is quite outdated. Shoot for at least a Radeon 9600 or somthing along those lines.

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G Man
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Posted: 13th Apr 2005 10:17 Edited at: 13th Apr 2005 10:18
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When compared to your built in Intel video controller, this may well be an upgrade of sorts. It is unlikely that it will increase your frame rate, but it will give you access to a fuller implimentation of a rendering engine. If you are looking for more speed and more bells and whistles for a decent price, Tiger Direct (http://www.tigerdirect.com) carries a Chaintech NVidia 5700 for $99. That's a decent little card that will definately have an impact on your frame rate. So don't let people give you a ration of crap. Your new card is an upgrade, just not an upgrade in the area that you were hoping.

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Posted: 13th Apr 2005 11:43
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I hope you didn't pay for that card. First of all, the MX versions of the Nvidia cards are the low, stripped down ones. Lower bus speeds than the standard GF2 would be. A GF2 GTS would probably get you a more noticable fps difference. You can get a GeForce FX5700 for less than $80.

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dre
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Posted: 13th Apr 2005 15:44
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Dude, before you buy a video card, why not go and look at some benchmarking results to compare between them. These days, I'd say a Radeon 9550 is a minimum. Still, even if you do buy that card, you'll have to upgrade pretty soon unless you really love playing 640x480 low detail. I'd personally suggest GeForce 6600 GT AGP (not pci-e, it's worse). It may cost $250, but I'm telling you, it easily competes (and wins) with many powerfull video cards that cost 2x more.

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Posted: 13th Apr 2005 19:10 Edited at: 13th Apr 2005 19:15
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I just spent £340 on a 6800Ultra (256mb DDR3), to replace my GeForce4 Ti4600 128mb(june this year it'd be 3yrs old!), I only upgraded cos I wanted to, that old GeForce4 can hold it's own easyily in Far Cry at 1024*768 medium detail, dunno what they cost, but if you can ebay one cheap I'd do it

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David R
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Posted: 13th Apr 2005 22:28 Edited at: 13th Apr 2005 22:30
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Nvidia geforce2 mx 400 cards have extreme problems peforming anything outside of basic 3d (like shaders etc.) and are incompatible with many modern games (Thief 3,Sims 2 etc)

My (much) younger brother James has one on his copmuter, and has trouble getting FPS higher than 25 in practically anything (even 2d)

I recommend the GeForce FX 5900 Ultra - great card! (5600 myself)

Edit: Unaware of the price for this card....

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dre
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Posted: 14th Apr 2005 07:44
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One note though: if you're gonna buy a pci or pci express card, buy one with 256 mb memory because as you know it stores textures in the vid memory also, resulting in less space for geometry ect, but it all depends what you're running. If Xperiment 627 can tell us what kind of software he plans to use then we can help him better.

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UnderLord
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dude i have a geforce 4 fx5500 thats a good little card supports alot of stuff too

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Posted: 15th Apr 2005 19:54
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I have a geforce mx 440 in an old PC and it's a good card considering it's age. I get a good FPS while using it (considering my FPS usually sucks)


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re faze
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Posted: 1st May 2005 04:02
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got the radeon 9250, this s*** is whats up!!!!

however, any reason modern 3d cards work slow when using paste image/sprite commands and 3d simotaneously? the built in graphics controllers dont have this problem. in addition after installing the card, (which was a hassle because it was not plugged in properly ) my dbpro cpu usage is now 100%, y?
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Posted: 2nd May 2005 14:24
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I'm guessing your intel graphics controller is at least a intel extreme blah blah, which can run faster than radeon 9250, geforce 2 mx 400 because of extremely high bandwidth. I can only suggest some things. Check to make sure that any drivers left from any older video cards are uninstalled or disabled. If not, your system will really be unstable. I know this might be nooby stuff for you, still worth a check. Secondly, make sure you install latest drivers because there used to be a bug when windows had 512+ mb ram and vid card had 256mb, 3d speed would suck (catalyst 5.3 is faster than 5.4 by the way). If all of this is too problematic, just install more RAM and let the integrated card chew on at least 128 mb. There's just too many things that could be the problem. If you want, e-mail me at [email protected] and maybe I could help you out.

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Phrozin
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Posted: 2nd May 2005 14:50
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[flame suit on] look for an Nvidia geforce 4 ti 4200 on ebay. they can be had for sub $50 and in my opinion are the last great card
Nvidia put out. They do hold thier own and you'll see an increase in fps. They wont hold thier own against a Radeon 9600 or the new nvidia boards, but it doesn't sound like your looking for a ferrari computer or price tag either. [/flame suit still on ]
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Posted: 2nd May 2005 21:29
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i have a geforce 4 mx 420, i bought it 2 years ago.
but i wouldnt recommend buying it today. look for geforce FX series, or radeon 9600 series. i would recommend a PRO or ULTRA version of any graphics card you can find.

ive spent around a week looking for a new card for me, i found radeon 9600 and geforce FX5700. ive checked many benchmark tests and they are pretty similar. so one of those should probably be the best you can get for under 100 bucks.

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I have a 4200 and its not very impressive. 4400's are either much better or its my cpu. I have a P3 1000 mhz in my room with a GeForce 2 MX 400, and it runs as well as my AMD Athlon 1.3 gigahertz with a geforce 4 ti 4200. Which really sort of bugs me, because now I am thinking my processor is just garbage rather than my card (which I have been thinking shortly after I got it) Anyone know if the 4200 just slow or is it my processor not picking up the FPS in the processing side?

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Posted: 3rd May 2005 23:08
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Quote: "in addition after installing the card, my dbpro cpu usage is now 100%, y?"


Points to note:

1 - If i'm playing a game and my CPU is not running at 100%, i worry

2 - If DBPro used to NOT report 100%, i probably means that your old graphics card was so crap that your CPU had to wait for your graphics card to finish what it was doing before it could continue. Thats rather slow



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re faze
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Posted: 7th May 2005 12:55
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oh, turned off hyper threading in bios, its back on and i am running at a smooth 50% now. Does anyone have cshop? if you use a dbpro app and the lightmapper at the same time, your pc will crash!. will test with the new radeon tho.
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