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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / The latest 5.8 version - is it worth it?

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Dr Crazy
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I've noticed all the people who try my game get that missing DX_() .dll missing error because they don't have the latest direct x and I'm missing out on downloads because people can't be bothered to get it, should I just revert to normal 5.8?

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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 17th Apr 2005 19:45
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Of course.

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Etienne
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the answer is quite ... personnal imo , there are things fixed , things worst , in the overall , if you don't use a combo of newton + dbpro + terrain i'd say yes due to bugfixes , but if you use that combo ... yes again , but you may as well keep the 5.7 and ... just wait for all to be done (the documentation (not upgraded yet !) , the enhancement packs updates (if not finished yet) , and other third party enhacements)

cause right now 5.8 seems to be ok in stand alone , but with other features it would make weird frustrating stuff

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Dr Crazy
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I got it standalone. For some reason, my menu won't work in 5.7 :S

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BealziBob
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Looks like you don't have all the information on the upgrade so let me clarify a few things for you.

1. The final release of Upgrade 5.8 no longer causes The DX dll error, your programs will happily run as they did before without having to download a Direct x Update.

2. The Enhancement Pack and Cloth and Particles updates were released on the same day as 5.8 final. Simply go to your orders page and download them again.

3. 5.8 works perfectly with EzRotate & Blue GUI 2, no need to update them.

4. Newton works perfectly with 5.8.

The new commands and fixes are worth the download alone. There is no reason not to update as far as I can tell.

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Etienne
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Posted: 18th Apr 2005 01:23 Edited at: 18th Apr 2005 01:43
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My mistake , newton works with it , it's just newton who has an issue , nothing related to dbpro , the v5.8 is now total ok .. i had a restriction now i think there is none

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OutLand
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Posted: 18th Apr 2005 01:36
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It is definatly worth it specialily if you want working low level vertex editing commands and shadows.
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Etienne
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hey , you from Wales i've been there seein the rugby team playing , fantastic country

"waaaaaales , waaaaaaales" they gave me a scarf , a nice gorgeous woman

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Dr Crazy
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Whaaa? No dx error? My friend got the missin dll error and YET he has dx 9.0c????

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Its due to Microsoft mucking around with DirectX SDK - it still hasn't been sorted yet (and probably wont until 9.0d)

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Dr Crazy
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o ok. Ive got DSK and my game works fine so it probably is that
Thanks anyway dudes,
Nick.

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thedubdude
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The good news about version 5.8 is that you can easily revert back to 5.7 just by re-installing the 5.7 patch. I'm very dissappointed with 5.8. The most annoying thing about it is that line numbers no longer correspond to the error message line number reported by Dark Basic (it worked great in 5.7). Least you think this is a minor problem, consider how much time you will spend tracking down that array who's index you've exceeded or any other of a mirid of possible compiler or program execution problems that are normal during a program's development.

Combine this with the problems caused by comments not being ignored in "select" and "type" statements and you've got major headaches. I'll stick with 5.7 until they get their act together at TGC.
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JerBil
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Posted: 19th Apr 2005 06:01
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Errors show exactly which line number in the editor is
wrong in 5.8. It never did in previous versions.


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BatVink
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Posted: 19th Apr 2005 06:33
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JerBil, it is actually way out, worse than it was before, it's confirmed in bug reports

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=52347&b=15



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JerBil
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Maybe so, but I'm not seeing that with the old editor U1.09b.

When I misspelled spacekey() at line 199 of a 201 line program,it did highlight line #2 with a "Does not exist in program." error, but that's the only situation I've been able to replicate. Otherwise, it's right on.


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Etienne
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here it SEEMS to work with me i actually didn't pay attention to that right now , but ...

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thedubdude
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Version 5.8's line number error reporting is inconsistent. For long programs it is way off....for short programs it seems to be OK. Version 5.7 is spot on all the time.
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