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1tg46
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Posted: 30th Apr 2005 03:17 Edited at: 3rd May 2005 02:47
I am in 9th grade and for my Business Mangement class we need to interview a person who is in my "career pathway", which happens to be computer programming. These questions are directed to people who do programming for a living. I would like to thank the forum members in advanced for helping me with this.

Question 1:
What are your working conditions? (environment, do you work with a team)

Question 2:
What was required from your employer so that you could work for them?

Question 3:
What are your benefits? (healthcare, vacation time, sick-pay, personal days)

Question 4:
What is your average salary per year?

Question 5:
What are the educational requirements for your job?

Question 6:
What type of High School courses would you suggest if I planned on going into the Computer Programming field?

Question 7:
What advice would you give to people who are looking into going into the programming field?

<These questions have been added due to interview requirement change>
Question 8:
What do you like best about your job? Do you enjoy it?

Question 9:
What is the general outlook of Computer Programming in your area?

Question 10:
Did you originally want to be a programmer when you were in High School/Lower Ed (K12)?

I would very appreciative if any of the forum members would be willing to take some time to answer these few questions.

Thanks,
1tg46

If you haver already answeredd the first six questions, I would very much be appreciative if you would answer the others that were added. My teacher would also like the full real name of the person I have interviewed so if you could also add your name it would help alot


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Posted: 30th Apr 2005 04:40
I work half a day as an asp/asp.net, vb.net programmer. But I became my company's main programmer almost by accident. I wasn't originally hired for it, but when they realized my talent, that became my main job. I'd be happy to answer some of your questions via email or MSN.

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Posted: 30th Apr 2005 09:29
Sorry, this forum is the only way I can talk to people over the net, I wish I could, but....


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Posted: 30th Apr 2005 09:35
Quote: "Question 6:
What type of High School courses would you suggest if I planned on going into the Computer Programming field?"


Computer Programming Classes(VB,C++),General Computer Science, Intro to computers, Communications(english),Algebra, Geometry, Advanced Algebra, Trig.

From there it depends on what type of programming:
3D/GAME: Physics, Computer Graphics
Software: Problem Solving class(if available), business
etc...

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Posted: 30th Apr 2005 10:13
Quote: "Computer Programming Classes(VB,C++),General Computer Science, Intro to computers, Communications(english),Algebra, Geometry, Advanced Algebra, Trig."

I have already planned that starting next year.
Here is my layout for high school:

Sophmore
Geometry
Computer Programming Intro
Computer Programming Intermediate

Junior
AP computer programming
Algebra II

Senior
Trigonometry/Algebra III
<some other computer related course, possibly a college course>


I will have other core classes as well and 2 years of probably french.


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Posted: 30th Apr 2005 10:15
Sounds like a great schedule, I wish my high school offered all those classes, i was only able to take two programming classes

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Posted: 30th Apr 2005 10:25
I can't take any! I'll have to do an Open University course to make me look better when applying for Uni (what I've done in the 3-4 years between then and when I started programming wont make a difference unless I can prove it)

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Posted: 30th Apr 2005 10:29
My sis is a senior at some ohio university, and I was explaining some of the programmming i have learned, and she said she is just now learning that as a SENIOR in COLLEGE...so i should be rather prepared

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Posted: 30th Apr 2005 10:40
CompTIA A+ (Also known as "Computer Upgrade and Repair") and Network+ (Also known as "Networking Fundamentals") would be 2 other classes to look into taking. If your gonna program for computers, you might as well learn all the technologies and items, so you know WHAT your programming.

Do they force Geometry as a Pre-Requisite to Algerbra II? I remember they said I should take it. My maths go:

Fresh: Geometry
Soph: Algerbra II
Jun: Pre-Calculus

Then I did nothing cause my only choices beyond that were "Math 1010 - 1020" (which is essentially Pre Calc all over again) and "AP Calculus". There was no way I was hoping in AP Calculus, thats alot of work.

Consider yourselves lucky to even have a few Programming courses. We had none at all. And for Network+, I have (and had) to get over to the Comm College in the mornings for it.

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Posted: 30th Apr 2005 11:56 Edited at: 30th Apr 2005 12:15
To Graduate from our school requires all students to take:
3 years math (Algebra I, Geometry, Algebra II, Algebra III/Trigonometry,Pre-Calculus or AP Calculus) I am taking 4 years of math. (Algebra I,and Algebra II or Geometry is required for graduation)

3 years social studies, 3 years Science, 3 1/2 years langauge arts
I am probably going to take 3 years of Social Studies, 4 years Science, and 3 1/2 years language arts.

All the rest of the credits are electives.

Quote: " CompTIA A+ (Also known as "Computer Upgrade and Repair") and Network+ (Also known as "Networking Fundamentals")"

My school doesn't have ComTIA A+ or Networking Fundamentals, however we do have the options of Network Administration, Electronics(4 possible courses).


Here are all possible courses that I can have:



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It's just pretty obvious that if you want to be a programmer it would be a REALLY good idea to have C++ down before college, if not high school depending on what classes you take there

My less-pimp name was Mattman.
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Posted: 1st May 2005 02:05
Quote: "Here are all possible courses that I can have:"


Woah - that list of subjects is HUGE for a school At GCSE we only got to pick from a limited number of options (the usual: geog, art, dt, spanish, german, history, latin) and at A Level this are generally in the same vein.

You school offers loads though - how big is it? Must be massive to support all those courses.

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Posted: 1st May 2005 02:26
My school offers roughly that many classes sort of. What they do is if there are less than 10 people registered in the class, they cancel it.

There are about 1150 kids in my school.

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Posted: 1st May 2005 05:57 Edited at: 1st May 2005 05:59
my school has about 1,500 students. Could some of the other questions also be answered?

Quote: "Woah - that list of subjects is HUGE for a school "

All the programs that have "GenNET" by the name are not necessarily ones that are taught at our school. Our school teams with about 5-7 other schools in our district so we can have online courses, and video class rooms where the teacher can be in one school and can teach/view all the students in the other schools. We also have an educational vacility that is off campus that is used between more than just one county. That facility has more than 15 (estimate) other classes that are available.

Not only that, but if their are other courses that are at a college, and you have taken all available courses in that field in the High School. My school will pay for the course at the college as long as you remain a student at the high school.


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Posted: 1st May 2005 08:44
1,500 kids? I would LOVE to see an assembly there!

here there's only 608, although I've heard of some mega inner-city comprehensives that are gargantuan in size.

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Posted: 1st May 2005 08:48 Edited at: 1st May 2005 08:54
Question 1:
What are your working conditions? (environment, do you work with a team)
Open office with a couple of hundred people. Probably a hundred or so programmers. I do work in a team, but we rarely program together on a single project. Normally help each other out with problems or design.

Question 2:
What was required from your employer so that you could work for them?
A university degree. Mainly Computer Science. They were not really bothered about what mark you got though.

Question 3:
What are your benefits? (healthcare, vacation time, sick-pay, personal days)
Get the usual health options. But not dentistry I don't think. I get 25 days a year for holidays (not counting bank holidays obviously). Fully paid sick pay, but you need a doctors note after something like 5 days, or they can stop wages. It's upto directors if you are ill for a long time. Depends who you are basically. And how tragic you are (a 2 month cold for a newbie is not looked on kindly). I'm not too sure on this subject as I've only been ill for 2 days in 10 years. Personal days? What are they? Have heard such things as Duvet days from the states (2 days a year if you can't be bothered to get up), but our company does nothing like it. One major benefit I like is we have semi-flexitime. Basically as long as you do 7.5 hours a day, and you are in work between the core hours of 10 and 16.30, then you can arrive or leave when you want. Oh, and we get stock options. And it may sound stupid, but we get free car parking and overtime pay. Not everyone does this.

Question 4:
What is your average salary per year?
I'm not telling you that!!!! It's a pretty decent amount though.

Question 5:
What are the educational requirements for your job?
Same as question 2. They really did not care about much else. Oh, apparently they wouldn't have employed me if they thought I was a gimp, I found out later. Since then we have implemented a test for interviewees. Most funny to read some of the answers (I used to mark it for a couple of years)

Question 6:
What type of High School courses would you suggest if I planned on going into the Computer Programming field?
Don't know what exists now. Obviously anything computer related, but I'd also go for maths, english, and anything that helps with speeches, and basically being confident. Always helps.

Question 7:
What advice would you give to people who are looking into going into the programming field?
Hmmm. Don't jump on the bandwagon of the latest flash language to come out. There are some safe ones (MS created language is almost def going to be well used), but you never know. Doesn't hurt to learn a few different languages too, as a backup. And, even though it may be hard for some (me for instance), look into less programming tasks. Such as project management, design, customer ineraction, teamleading, management etc. They tend to pay you more for these things. If you can do the whole package at once, and keep your sanity (like me - just), then people love you. Until you drop the ball just once. But that is a different story Oh, and training other people is a piece of p*ss. But people think it's difficult, so is well paid. Heh. Strangely not everyone is good at this (and able to do their own job). I used to stare in amazement at my salary after a week of explaining simple rubbish to a cretin (with a computer degree!!!) for the last week. Almost like robbery...

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Thanks for answering the question, much appreciative.

Quote: " 1,500 kids? I would LOVE to see an assembly there!

here there's only 608, although I've heard of some mega inner-city comprehensives that are gargantuan in size."


The assemblys that we do have (which is far and few between) are either in a big gymnasium in the school or in the apitheater(or at least that is what I think it is called).


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i go to a school with just over 2000 students - it's great barr, bham = and for our options we could only choose from

art - 2 kinds though
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geography
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business studies

and we have to take either french or german - or if your insane you could do both

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for langauges we have the option of French, German, Spanish, Japanese, even though none of the languages are required. Although you do need to have at least 2 years of foreign language to get to any of the good colleges around in the area.


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Really? Even if you want to do computer science? ie. everything is in English.

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Quote: "and we have to take either french or german - or if your insane you could do both"


I actualyl thought French was compulsory up to GCSE?

We have to do french, and at the start of schoool you pick either German or Spanish to do. At the end of the 3rd year you then choose if you want to continue.

I do both

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A few more questions have been added that I need due to interview requirement change. This will probably not change again.


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Quote: "Sounds like a great schedule, I wish my high school offered all those classes, i was only able to take two programming classes"


My high school offers no programming classes. My school has 3 computer classes. Word processing, windows movie maker and computer hardware.
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Quote: "Quote: "Sounds like a great schedule, I wish my high school offered all those classes, i was only able to take two programming classes"

My high school offers no programming classes"


If it makes you feel better, the c++ class tough me NOTHING i didn't already know.

Although my VB6 class was really good...in fact, thats the reason i got into programming at all as aposed to just web scripting like i had been doing.

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lucky people in england, i'm pretty sure there are no courses like that for us scottish people that did standard grades, our school we had a choice of computing (has programming+using them) or systems (using computers eg databases with extra database type stuff) as the only computing courses.
the rest of the course options were the usuall english+math+french/german all compulsary andwe had to pick another 5 from certain columns which were different subjet types, a science, an art and one from geo/history/rme/eccenomics and then more open colomns.
i did math,english,french,computing,physics,chemistry,geography and music.

i'd recommend any mathematical or computing based courses from my discusions with people in the industry.
they also mentioned that java was a much sought after language to know tip for you. remember you can learn languages at home, there are planty fre compilers and tutorials online.

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Quote: "they also mentioned that java was a much sought after language to know tip for you. remember you can learn languages at home, there are planty fre compilers and tutorials online."


I don't need to worry about that I have Visual Studio .NET 2003 Professional (Academic) at home.


Are the basics of java in J# .NET 2003?


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Could someone please answer these questions? I would really like to turn this in as soon as possible and to do this I need to have all 10 questions answered.

Thanks,
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Didn't know you added more...

Question 8:
What do you like best about your job? Do you enjoy it?
The money Heh, and basically doing something I love to do. Constantly amazes me that people actually pay me. Lots. Hmmm. Don't enjoy it quite so much after a decade (another week actually), as you get a bit jaded in the place you work. But the actual programming I still love to bits. If it's my own work, and not some moron's work you have to mod (out of 7000 programs - honest) who everyone thought was good at the time

Question 9:
What is the general outlook of Computer Programming in your area?
Not too good to be fair. After 911, and the fact that travel (I work in that area) and IT has taken a worldwide nosedive since, then not so good. Survived so far, but many many people didn't. Totally different outlook since I started my job (1995). And helpdesk people (can sometimes be programming involved, esp where I work) are terrified they are going to be took over by call centres in India earning like 25p an hour.

Question 10:
Did you originally want to be a programmer when you were in High School/Lower Ed (K12)?
Yes, of course. What else is there? Don't know what K12 is, but I knew since I was 9 when I got my first Spectrum computer and used Speccy BASIC. Would have known earlier if I'd used a computer before. The only thing that came close was writing. But I wouldn't want to be a journo, and I don't want to work in Burger King the rest of my life to keep afloat the slightly possible dream of making a bestseller.

Cheers

Oh, and if you want to know my salary then email me. I'm not going to publish it here.

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Thanks, now I can print this and turn it in. Hopefully the teacher doesn't mind that the salary question wasn't answered but that should be okay.

Thanks,
1tg46


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mm0zct you can't call me lucky...my friend did like 200 pages just to get an A!!! I'm pretty sure I got the lowest mark I will get: E

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Quote: "Sophmore
Geometry
Computer Programming Intro
Computer Programming Intermediate
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Dang i wish they had stuff like that at our school, lol. Ill be in Algebra 2 next year cause im in honors math (im in 9th grade as well). Im not taking any computer classes until 11th and 12th grade where ill take computer science, cause all our comp classes right now are like "Keyboarding" and "Computer Applications", where you learn how to use Microsoft Word, lol.

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Quote: "all our comp classes right now are like "Keyboarding" and "Computer Applications", where you learn how to use Microsoft Word, lol."


Well our school puts a fancy name for all that, and it is one course called Business Management Administration 1 and Business Management Administration 2


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btw,
Quote: " Don't know what K12 is, "

In the United States their are 12 grades of schooling before college, and this stands for kidnegarden to 12th grade.


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Just fyi it's spelled 'kindergarten' and it's German for 'child garden.'

I'm going to be studying CS at New Mexico Tech next fall. If you want to study computer science you don't have to know any programming before you go to college. In fact, they will make you relearn a lot of what you know to fit various standards (depending on the courses you take). I think the best advice for high school is to take as much math as possible. I took algebra2 as a freshman so I could take AP Calc my junior year. This year (i'm a senior) I took Linear Algebra and Calc 3 at a local university. And, honestly, it paid off big time. I got about $27,000 scholarship to go to New Mexico Tech and the math courses I've taken free up a lot of prereqs that I would have had to take in college (which costs a lot of money compared to community college or high school) and it gives me more time to take other computer classes. Trust me, math is the way to go.

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Quote: " Just fyi it's spelled 'kindergarten'"

That is actually what I thought it was originally but it didn't look quite right.


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Again, I would like to thank everyone for their help in this assignment. I ended up getting 100% on both their written paper of the assignment, 100% on the powerpoint presentation of the assignment, and extra credit for the interview.

Thanks very much


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1tg46

P.S. I would've posted how the assignment went, earlier. But the teacher just finished grading them this week . But everything I can tolerate for just 4 more days until school ends for the summer. Thanks again.


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