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Alkaline
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Posted: 17th May 2005 10:49
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My school bought dbc back in september and now they just blocked tgc....what a shame

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Benjamin
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Posted: 17th May 2005 12:28
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Kick them. Hard. Where it hurts.


"Lets migrate like bricks" - Me
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hyrichter
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Posted: 17th May 2005 12:30
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Sometimes I have to disconnect my internet when I want to get something done. With such easy access to the forums, I get easily distracted.

But yeah, do what Benjamin says.


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Benjamin
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Posted: 17th May 2005 12:55
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Quote: "Sometimes I have to disconnect my internet when I want to get something done. With such easy access to the forums, I get easily distracted."

Same here.


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Metel Artz
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Posted: 17th May 2005 13:01
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start up the comp in safe mode. works for me.

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Osiris
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Posted: 17th May 2005 14:04
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Safe mode with networking, lol at my school, they have a blocker that needs to be turned off in the BIOS, now how they did that I dont know...

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Mnemonix
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Posted: 17th May 2005 14:27
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flash the bios if possible

They would never suspect you.

Try out the controller:-
http://controller.logicstudios.net
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Dom
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Posted: 17th May 2005 16:52
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Unless you dropped a *VERY* subtle hint like
"Hello Sir, notice anything wrong with one of the PCs BIOS, WINK,WINK!"


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geecee3
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Posted: 17th May 2005 20:22
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important do not take my advice!!!!!!!

take a party balloon to your school and rub it in your hair then touch the offending PC with the balloon. do this a few times. after you kill that PC move on to the next. and so on. your school will then have to buy new pc's and mabey with a bit of luck they'll forget the lockout system. if a party baloon looks too suspicious use 'loads of cling-film' or plastic food wrap to generate the static required. get your friends in on the act. make a day of it.

imagine banning a creative coding community from a school. sad.

it's 'your' education. not the education of the halfwits who banned this forum from being accessed at your school.

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Foxy
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Posted: 17th May 2005 21:19
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A balloon!? Just get a pocket-sized Vandigraph Generator.

My 1337 site:

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David R
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Posted: 17th May 2005 22:26
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Quote: "My school bought dbc back in september and now they just blocked tgc....what a shame"


They buy DBC.... and block its website (TGC)

Where is the logic!!

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Oraculaca
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Posted: 17th May 2005 23:48
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Quote: "take a party balloon to your school and rub it in your hair"


Quote: " A balloon!? Just get a pocket-sized Vandigraph Generator."


pah youve got to think big...
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zenassem
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Posted: 18th May 2005 00:59
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Confession from someone frustrated on the inside:

I work as Network Systems Technician/Admin for my loacal School District. I too tried to get the administration involved in the DBC for schools offer. After much frustration I was given the go-ahead. I began working with DB with the Middle School students (In a Technology Club).

That was about 2 Years ago. I have since been moved to the High School, and wanted to continue the program. (keep in mind, there is hardly any programming courses in the curriculum outside of an elective Java course for A.P. (Advanced Placement) students).

So again, I found myself in an uphill battle, as I am not part of the Teaching staff. In order for me to work with students I need a Teacher who is willing to work with me. Not an easy task.

The TGC site has been recently blocked by the internal Sonic Firewall (which replaced our un-supported 3com Superstack) that is managed by my supervisor (The Network Systems Coordinator). I was appalled to say the least. The fact is that it is a result of lazy management. They basically blocked all sites having to do with Games. The interface allows for checkmarks to be placed for certain groupings/keywords [Games,gambling,forums,sex, etc...] Hence, TheGameCreators is on the nixxed list. I have a few ways to get around it.

Kind of retarded if you ask me. Students can't even look up topics such as game theory, nor do research on anything related to gaming in genereal ie. The possitive effects that vide gaming has on the brain: Logic processing, Problem Solving, Spacial cognition, etc...

In fact many sites related to technology, computers, and programming are blocked. I can talk myself till I'm blue in the face, and yet they just don't want to get it.

Some solutions:
-First using the IP adress outsmarts the Sonic Firewall, as it doesn't seem to do a reverse lookup. So I can basically view the pages and the forums. The downside is I can't login.

Proxy Servers:
-Second, some of my WebProxy servers have now been blocked or require a payed version, for certain content; like the login page.

So now, I'll set up my home computer as my proxy server. Or when I really get pushed over the edge, It's really simple to just "adjust" some cables to the Firewall, and open the floodgates.


Arggggg! So I can feel your pain.

~zenassem


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DBAlex
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Posted: 18th May 2005 02:24
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Yeah, They recently blocked the TGC forums at our school...

I checked a proxy site and it isnt blocked...So that could be a short term solution...But im hoping they'll unblock it, It was blocked for a while, Then un-blocked, so maybe that will happen...

the network administrators are so evil though...Only give us 50mb document space...they upgraded me to 100mb now...

Everyrone should have at least 256mb space imho...Even MP3 players have that much!!!

I could talk for ever but i wont...


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EddieB
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Posted: 18th May 2005 02:26
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At our school, We only have 30 megs each
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Neofish
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Posted: 18th May 2005 02:34
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At my school when they changed servers they stripped the space down before moving...however I left mine full and I still have about 2x more than everyone else

Pi = 8
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Mentor
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Posted: 18th May 2005 04:05
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when I was at school (1970's) we had 0mb of document space (hardcopy only...when permited...no more than two pages or four if you could sweetalk em into printing onto the other side and justify the extra ribbon usage) and net access was once per week after school by proxy (you told the teacher where to go, and if he liked the sound of it you got a few seconds looking at the title page of a site), consider yourselves blessed

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FROGGIE!
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Posted: 18th May 2005 04:14
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Quote: "30 megs each"


My coursework (actual work) takes up 36 meg
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Neofish
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Posted: 18th May 2005 04:17
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While in my day (2005...BC) we didn't have access to computers, let alone caves!!! You modern children are so spoilt!

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EddieB
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Posted: 18th May 2005 04:17
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Quote: "My coursework (actual work) takes up 36 meg"


Yeh but most of the people at my school only use it for pictures etc
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DBAlex
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Posted: 18th May 2005 04:18
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Well, Im supposed to store all my coursework and huge Photodraw files on 50mb... So i asked for more.




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just ND
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Posted: 18th May 2005 04:21 Edited at: 18th May 2005 04:22
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Well i suppose i'm lucky... even though i have the most SPAKtarded school proxy in the world, at least i get 120gb of space! I get my own laptop yay! That means no program blocking, and i could probably change my proxy if i knew how

<--- insert neofish here --->

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zenassem
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Generally I allow for 100mb of general user space. (obviously more for students who are in CAD classes, and programming.) I have no problem with requests for more space, but I generally handle it on a case-by-case basis.

The reason being that most students don't actually need the space, and working within the confines of my budget, I need to make the most out of our server space.

The problem is, many students were filling up there space with .mp3's and images that had nothing to do with school work. Sorry, but it's not there own personal server.

I also ran into a problem, a while back, on a improper netware 4 server setup. Basically the user accounts were right off the root of the SYS volume, and had NO SIZE RESTRICTIONS during creation.

I had a nice java student who decided to write a program to write to a file in his user directory, inside an endless loop. He left the program running on a computer after the final bell. You can figure out the end result.

But I don't blame the student, much more of the blame is on me and the person who originally set up that server. Unfortunately, it wasn't an easy process to adjust size restrictions to user accounts off the root of a SYS volume in Netware 4. Hence, I learned a valuable lesson that day!

back on topic: It's not always that the admins are mean, it's just that we need to provide for everybody with a very small percentage of the entire school budget.

~zen


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Hawkeye
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Posted: 18th May 2005 04:25
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Ah, yet another reason I'm so glad I'm homschooled...

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DBAlex
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I understand that zenassem

Im happy with the space I have now...

And its not for Mp3's and stuff like the smacktards in the rest of my class...

I had to delete work that I had done this year to make room for new work...

Damn...I shouldnt have done that ...


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zenassem
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Posted: 18th May 2005 04:58
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DBAlex,

Yeah, I would never force a student such as yourself to delete work. Sorry to hear that.

Most of the students know that I am very approachable, and will help them out if they need more space. I'll even give them CDRW's (from my own personal stock) if need be.

Unforutnately, many of the drives in the labs are broken due to a small percentage of students who ruin things for everyone else.

I allow them to save to the local computer HD in case I can't be reached in an emergency. The HD's get cleaned out now and then when I re-image the labs, but even then I try to give classses a few days notice.

Not all of us out their are evil

And just to be fair to our student friends...
BTW, I've seen a higher percentage of "user account space" abuse from the faculty then I have ever seen on the student server. They also abuse the printing policy when the copier is down.


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Megaton Cat
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Posted: 18th May 2005 05:09
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I've pissed of guys like zenassem over the years in my highsechool. First, I got tgc also blocked becasue I swear I was the only one going on it. THEN I got unreal Tournament officialy banned becasue I repeadiatly installed it on 85% of the computers in the labs. As a result of all the crap I've done, they lowered the Student space from 50mb to 15mb.

It's M-E-G-A-T-O-N. NOT MEGATRON.
DON'T MAKE ME GET THE RABBIT.
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zenassem
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Megaton Cat,
Not if you installed it on my computers as well

Actually I allow students to install stuff on the local clients, mainly because I can re-image them pretty quickly with Symantec Ghost, or with Zenworks.

But now that I have my Citrix Metaframe server farm going, who knows??? They may just get a thin-client desktop via a web page.

~zen


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Peter H
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Posted: 18th May 2005 05:25
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Quote: "Ah, yet another reason I'm so glad I'm homschooled... "

heehee...me to...so i have like..40 gigs...and a dsl connection all to myself (+ this is the only computer i work on so i don't have to worry about not having my stuff with me )

"We make the worst games in the universe."

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David R
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Our space was unlimited... until I managed to install DBC on there.... luckily the install for DBC doesnt check for admin privilages; so it installed fine.

Down side; They've reduced the space to 100mb (way too small for all the programming junk and VB stuff I store on it)

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Quote: "when I was at school (1970's) we had 0mb of document space (hardcopy only...when permited...no more than two pages or four if you could sweetalk em into printing onto the other side and justify the extra ribbon usage) and net access was once per week after school by proxy (you told the teacher where to go, and if he liked the sound of it you got a few seconds looking at the title page of a site), consider yourselves blessed"

It wasn't much better in the 1980's.


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Oraculaca
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ahhhhh 'Horace Goes Skiing'

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yeah! class high quality 3d racing game on ski`s , awesome at the time, and 3D ant attack...like WOW!, and I spent whole days playing Elite when it came out, it was soo realistic I choked when my ship got zapped (no air you see...couldn`t breath )

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TKF15H
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Quote: "Only give us 50mb document space"

at my uni they give us 5.

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mm0zct
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i have no idea how much space we get but about a year ago they scrubbed everyones docs (with warning so we could backup) and changed all the passwords.
unfortunately the school proxy doesn't allow ftp so i couldn't use my webspace... or so i thought, a little research resulted in a php http upload script on my webserver shared amungst some of my friends but i still see little reason to block ftp when anyone can do the same with http.
tgc is not blocked at our school yet although i wish some programming sites got less dodgy urls lol, my teacher was looking for a pascal compiler for the pupils to practice with so i told him about www.bloodshed.net, he was rather dubious about goin on the site with it still up on the projector lol.
the removable media security is a bit odd in my school too eg in one room no pcs have floppy or cd etc, in the next they all have dvd drives, and the usb drives work in the first port you put them in but not in any other than that one after you have put it in one, coming up with a user does not have access privelages to install drivers error, even though it still works in the first port without an error.

if i needed extra storage i could just take in one of my hard drives and an ide to usb2 adapter

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