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qwe
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Posted: 30th May 2005 14:48
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i feel i should post a controversial topic

i find amphetamine (tried first time today) makes programming quite fun, and you can get very focused on it. using logic brings so much pleasure when your mind is so active (not that it doesn't normally for me, but it's more intense). it's nothing like caffeine, which never helps me, and infact makes me lazy

i am also curious about psychedelics and programming. Robert anton Wilson in one of his books wrote of people taking LSD to help with hugely complex programming (LSD supposedly lets you "fit more things into your head at one time" and peopl often describe it as if they feel hundreds of books of information at one time--i can see how this would help programming). i'm wondering if anyone has tried this combo

p.s. i think i should note, this thread is about drugs that may help programming ability. it is not about how drugs are bad. if you want to discuss that, make your own thread. kthxbye
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Posted: 30th May 2005 14:55
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this is probably the stupidest post i have ever read...ever

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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:00
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Quote: "this is probably the stupidest post i have ever read...ever"

this is probably the stupidest reply i have seen...ever
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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:04
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I feel inclined to lock this post purely on the first 2 replies made to this thread... however, that would be mean.


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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:09
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Quote: "this is probably the stupidest reply i have seen...ever"

pride had overcome my soul

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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:13 Edited at: 30th May 2005 15:15
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... Has it crossed your pea sized brain that perhaps admiting your taking illicit substances might now be one of the best ideas?

If your going to sit there [censored] over your immune system, and creating subtle dependancies as well as potencial harmful unbalances inside your body; well that's up to you.

Keep it to yourself though, retard.
Given the adverage age of the community the last thing we want is some moron walking around trying to glamourise illegal activities, or even justify it within this forum.

Drugs don't help anything. Even the legal mildest ones such-as Caffiene cause problems if you take it too often, even if your trying to stay up that extra hour.

If your a retard drugs won't stop you being a retard, they'll just makes you think your not. There's a difference between thinking something rather than the reality.

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Exeat, he is commenting on illegal activites he has been in. That would be against the AUP, wouldn't it?

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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:16 Edited at: 30th May 2005 15:16
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I have to say it once again, I agree with Raven........... ow that hurt. I think it was self-pity.

Anyway, Everyone knows the only substance that programmers need is a good dose of Vitamin A-lchy. That gets the creative things swinging. And sends me to the p*sser alot, where I get my best ideas.

Edit: Apparently my name for a toilet is a bad word these days.

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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:21
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wow
very...insightful...replies
thanks for the...intelligent discussion...very open minded! all the aspects of my topic were discussed so clearly! people read my "if you want to talk about how they are bad make your own thread" and followed it!

jesus christ...

also raven how do you know i don't have a prescription, how do you know i'm doing something illegal?

i guess this thread goes down the tubes
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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:22
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And you weren't expecting it too? Wow, you can keep taking the drugs, you can't get any stupider.

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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:23 Edited at: 30th May 2005 15:23
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of course i thought it was a possibility. hence the
Quote: "p.s. i think i should note, this thread is about drugs that may help programming ability. it is not about how drugs are bad. if you want to discuss that, make your own thread. kthxbye"


it's just that most in my groups of friends aren't so close minded and quick to judge
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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:24
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Why make a thread when its easily debatable in here? Maybe you should take more drugs... we could only hope for an OD.

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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:25
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because i thought the topic would be of interest. you're all programmers after all
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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:26
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Most of us are also intelligent people...

Not saying i'm anti-drug's...hahaha that'd be so Ironic. I just wanna say that it dosen't help programming ability in one bit, and it whacks a chunk outta your brain in the process.

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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:28
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cite a source, or personal experience please

because my experience, and my research, has given me the opposite conclusions about certain ones. you can't just say "drugs do this" and apply a blanket "chunk out your brain" effect on every single drug. sorry but i think your objectivity is not at its top notch regarding this topic
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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:31
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Quote: "also raven how do you know i don't have a prescription, how do you know i'm doing something illegal"


Because they're not a perscribe drug, Crystal Meth is a street drug. Pure and Simple.. there is no medical use for it.

There is no intelligence in a discussion about illegal activities.

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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:32 Edited at: 30th May 2005 15:33
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Well they do, even ones designed to help you, speed causes abnormal heart rates. Amphetamines don't exactly take a whack at the brain, but they do hurt everything else. They take away your appetite, causeing you to become malnutritu... however the hell its spelt. You'll become an insomniac, you get violent and moody. Go to health class sometime, they teach you all about it.


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Read:

http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/amp.html

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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:33
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Quote: "Because they're not a perscribe drug, Crystal Meth is a street drug. Pure and Simple.. there is no medical use for it."
if you read what i said, i said amphetamine, not methamphetamine, two different chemicals, the former of which is prescribed for narcolepsy, ADHD, and other disorders

Quote: "There is no intelligence in a discussion about illegal activities."
i'm sorry but "intelligence" is subjective and the government is definitly not the everlasting tome of wisdom
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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:36 Edited at: 30th May 2005 15:38
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Quote: "Well they do, even ones designed to help you, speed causes abnormal heart rates. Amphetamines don't exactly take a whack at the brain, but they do hurt everything else. They take away your appetite, causeing you to become malnutritu... however the hell its spelt. You'll become an insomniac, you get violent and moody. Go to health class sometime, they teach you all about it."


I took a low dose. I still have my appetite, and I'd never take it more than once per week, and my plan is taking it about once a month anyway because stimulants are the hardest drugs on the body

I'm not going to become an insomniac if I take a low dose in the afternoon

I may be violent and moody if I am a long term user, which i am not

Health class had loads of humorous propaganda. sorry teacher but i actually read the scientific literature on this stuff, and tons of legal, moral, and chemical philosophy, and those stupid anti drug videos were BS

And your wrong, amphetamines do hurt the brain. hence i took anti oxidants to prevent this from happening, as amphetamines raise oxidative stress

and yes my heart rate was a bit elevated today. on par with masterbating or taking a walk. the elevated heart rate isn't what's bad

amphetamines are however cardiotoxic, but the heart heals and i excersise most days of the week
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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:38
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Well defending myself from bigot attacks has been fun but I think we should let this thread sink. It's pointless
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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:39
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Quote: "i'm sorry but "intelligence" is subjective and the government is definitly not the everlasting tome of wisdom "


government passes medical bill, they don't do the case studies or make the suggestions of what should and shouldn't be on each list.

Quote: "if you read what i said, i said amphetamine, not methamphetamine, two different chemicals, the former of which is prescribed for narcolepsy, ADHD, and other disorders"


Amphetamines are NOT perscribed. The closest thing I can think of which is would be Dolphamine.

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Amphetamines are a quite addicting substance that you will become dependent on. Even if you start in small doses. I was perscribed "Dexadrine" about 10 years ago for my ADHD, it took me 2 years to get off of. I tried just quiting, but I couldn't stay awake without it. I had to gradually get off of it.

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Posted: 30th May 2005 15:40
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Quote: "Exeat, he is commenting on illegal activites he has been in. That would be against the AUP, wouldn't it?"


Who do you think I am, the AUP police? Oh wait, that's exactly what I am.

This is in breach of section 3.9 of the Acceptable Usage Policy:
Quote: "Do not involve or advocate illegal activities (including piracy)"


Time to kiss this thread goodbye (not like anyone was making good use of it (although, there wasn't really ever a good use anyway)).

P.S. Didn't I lock this already? I must be going insane...


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