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BearCDPOLD
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I'm sure most of you know about it, but what the heck, let's have a wonderful TGC discussion on it.
http://news.com.com/Hollywood+balks+at+Microsofts+Halo+pitch/2100-1043_3-5740542.html

Microsoft's being pretty strict about creative control, I imagine that's a good thing, and I hope it lasts through the negotiations.

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Wow I didnt know that until now! Thanks for the news BearCDP! Although I think Microsoft are asking a lot. $10 million fee!!!!!!!!! But what do I know about that sort of thing.


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oh my god! ooh lets make pac man the movie too and tetris or to be less stupid lol lets make Medal of honour the movie, oh or Gran Turismo the movie, or Doom the movie, silly ideas Resi evil was a good to make as a movie because the game was good with mystery and full of horror, the Final Fantasy Spirits Within was not such a good movie, but final Fantasy could be a good movie because they always have great stories in them, and keep you interested, like Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children the movie should be like


But Halo the movie? Nah....Hey I think I know a SCT member who would buy it....go on Bear guess lol

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Posted: 11th Jun 2005 21:40 Edited at: 11th Jun 2005 21:41
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If they can keep to the Halo universe, it could be quite good. However, if they start introducing irrelevent things (like the Doom film), it could be a mess.

Bungie did say theat they would never do a film - so the lure of money obviously changed their minds...

I would also like a Max Payne film.


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Posted: 11th Jun 2005 23:34
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Quote: "Microsoft's being pretty strict about creative control, I imagine that's a good thing, and I hope it lasts through the negotiations."


It's not going to work. It's a very different industry, and anyone working on the movie couldn't care less about what Microsoft thinks, MS have never made a movie and have no idea about the industry. I very much doubt the movie will go ahead under these conditions.


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Half-Life could be good too. Creative control is essential if Halo is to be remebered as a classic film. There's never enough respect from Hollywood when it comes to making Game-to-Film conversions. Look at Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Mario Bros.!

I mean, I was hoping to see the original TR story converted into film with Pier and that skating kid with uzi's; to see Lara Croft exploring tombs and solving puzzels; to hear the original music which I thought was some of the best music I've heard in a game.

The same with Resident Evil - why cant they just make a straight conversion instead of a piece of s**t!?

I'm just hoping the same thing dont happen with Halo or Half-Life.

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I never saw what was so bad about the RE movie. The second one wasn't very good, but the first was ok. If they followed the exact same storyline of the game there wouldn't be much point in whatching the film as you'd already know how it ends.

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I think it could work. This is truly excellent that someone is finally taking a stand for creative control of their own project .

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Quote: "someone is finally taking a stand for creative control of their own project"
Someone being one of the most powerful companies in the world....

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No, someone being the folks at Bungie .

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Posted: 12th Jun 2005 04:35 Edited at: 12th Jun 2005 04:37
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What makes you think it's Bungie who have the rights to this?

When Microsoft bought Bungie, didnt they do the same thing.. That is, take control on mercandising, advertising etc?

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Though i do think Bungie will have a big say in how the actual film will be written and how it should look, i never once saw -Bungie- ever mentioned in the article.



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Posted: 12th Jun 2005 07:04 Edited at: 12th Jun 2005 07:05
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Sorry but I have to laugh, so far out of all films based on games most of them sucked, e.g.

Street Fighter
Mario Brothers
Mortal Kombat: Annihilation

Infact, the first Mortal Kombat film (which was the second film based on a game ever) still stands as one of the best.

If Hollywood do what I think they'll do (which is get the rights to the game and them tell Bungie to sod off) the film will be awful. Hollywood is desperate for new films today and will do what they can to make a film that isn't an obvious rip-off of a previous film or a remake, this includes screwing a lot of people!

I've lost interest in american films, since they're mostly crap now. All the films I've bought in the last 12 months have been japanese.

On the other hand I won't say Halo the Movie will suck just because it's being made by americans, I'll give it a chance.

But then again we're all still waiting for Max Payne the Movie, Half-Life the Movie, Duke Nukem the Movie and what's happened (again) to Doom? How long are we going to have to wait?

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Posted: 12th Jun 2005 07:11 Edited at: 12th Jun 2005 07:11
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If were lucky it'll be about as good 'Street Fighter' movie..

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Depends how much hollywood is put in doesn't it..
Honestly I don't see it going through.

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Posted: 12th Jun 2005 07:22 Edited at: 12th Jun 2005 07:23
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I can just see it:

Sly Stalone plays the Master Chief
Winnona Ryder plays Cortana (no cg avatar)
Jim Carrie voices the Monitor

and for some god-forsaken reason they bring in Dulf Lungran to voice the Master Chief's sidekick named Billy!

(it's so difficult to be sarcastic and patronising at the same time on this forums)

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Quote: " Sorry but I have to laugh, so far out of all films based on games most of them sucked, e.g.

Street Fighter
Mario Brothers
Mortal Kombat: Annihilation"

I liked the first two . Maybe they weren't very good, but they were sure entertaining..


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A Pong motion picture would take the industry by storm.

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That would be awesome if they made that non-cartoon Dragonball Z movie that everybody's been raving about for the past 5 years.. If they don't hurry up I'll end up making one myself...

Edit: Hmm.. But where am I going to find someone with Goku's hair?...

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Quote: "That would be awesome if they made that non-cartoon Dragonball Z movie that everybody's been raving about for the past 5 years.. If they don't hurry up I'll end up making one myself..."


What are you talking about, there are 12 Dragonball Z Movies.

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Posted: 12th Jun 2005 07:58 Edited at: 12th Jun 2005 08:01
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I'm talking about that DBZ movie that's supposed to have real actors...

I saw previews in magazines..

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Quote: "What are you talking about, there are 12 Dragonball Z Movies. "


Now that's just called being anal...

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Quote: "Now that's just called being anal..."


That doesn't even make sense.. how in the heck does anal have any relevance to what he said?


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I'm pretty sure he knew what you meant by "non-cartoon Dragonball Z".

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They canceled that DBZ movie awhile back. Doom is coming out this summer so we can all suffer Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. I don't know why Karl Urban saw any interest in it, as if Riddick wasn't enough damage to him. (Course LOTR and The Bourne Supreamcy were great movies and he was great in both. )

Anyways Halo may be okay, but probably not which would suck. Now what we really need to see is Peter Jackson take up the role of making a movie like Dungeon Siege, not some half-ass director *cough*Uwe Bowe*cough*, or even manage to get Nintendo to give him rights to Zelda, he could do great things with that, it would look fantastic, has anything WETA's made ever not been fantastic?


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Yea, Zelda would be cool.

I've been thinking they should make a Trigun movie.. that would be cool... or a Yu Yu Hakusho.. or Kenshin.. any of those would be cool...


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Quote: "I'm pretty sure he knew what you meant by "non-cartoon Dragonball Z". "


.. yup, I mean you hear constant rumours about Japanimé; I'd suggest not believeing anything you hear along those line.

I mean beside the fact that Dragon Ball Z is actually over a decade old. And the company that used to have the rights said in 1997 that they didn't want to make any more. So a second company took over with Dragonball GT. It had a good run but in the end, the same fate.

2001 was the last time DragonBall was made. The comics themselves stopped long before.

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Quote: "If they followed the exact same storyline of the game there wouldn't be much point in whatching the film as you'd already know how it ends. "


well hang on - when a game is made from a film its always as close to the story as it can possibly be but that doesnt make it a rubbish game does it? I mean can you imagine the uproar and confusion if Lucas Arts changed the story of Star Wars for the game! So I personally cant see the problem of working this the other way (Mortal Kombat didnt made an effort.)

Hollywood movies are so predictable you know how it ends anyway! It's all bulls*it and really cooks my sweede!

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Wowie kaboodles, my thread's kind of a hit. The article doesn't say ever nuance (thought it did have the most info in comparison), but several others had stated that Alex Garland had to get Bungie's approval on the script. Fanboys on bungie.net are screaming for a Fall of Reach adaptation, but seeing as how Bungie badly wants Ridley Scott I don't see that happenning.
Some of the movies these articles quote as being successful game movies were pretty terrible movies. Tomb Raider was decent, but despite sales it was less than it could have been. RE was pretty lame, as was FF, I agree with all you guys there.

Y'know a game that should be a movie is Metal Gear Solid. It's practically halfway to being a movie with all the cutscenes. Damn good story too.

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MGS the Movie = The escape from NY/LA series

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Quote: "Some of the movies these articles quote as being successful game movies were pretty terrible movies. Tomb Raider was decent, but despite sales it was less than it could have been. RE was pretty lame, as was FF, I agree with all you guys there."


Which Resident Evil, and which Final Fantasy?
I thought they were all pretty awesome, but Resident Evil : Apocalypse was a little too Hollywood. The first one had a nice low-budget touch (even though it wasn't); but it felt like a real horror film rather than just some remake of the game to film.

Quote: "Y'know a game that should be a movie is Metal Gear Solid. It's practically halfway to being a movie with all the cutscenes. Damn good story too."


If they made a film of Metal Gear Solid, I'd prefer it to be pure Machinima like the game itself. The way the graphics in Twin Snakes was done was just mind blowing... it added alot of flare to the game. Although they were too long; that was the major problem really. He tried to fit thier entire life history into 10minutes.

While for the game this was all he really had given you can't find out history of them any other way; for a film you can switch between characters easier and it provides time for the audience to get to know the characters first. Most paramount thing would be to have Hideo Kojima direct.. no other possibility. ^_^

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I was talking about Apocalypse, my bad for not specifying, I share your opinion of it being too Hollywood. It was a while ago that I saw it, friends persuaded me to go, saying it was going to rock. I asked them afterward why it rocked, and they said all the usual stuff about blowing zombies apart....yeah...real groundbreaking.

For FF, I was definitely not talking about Advent Children, not out yet. I began to appreciate Spirits Within more after you pointed out the thematic ties to the games a while ago, but I still think the dialogue and voice acting was a little spotty. And I guess I'm predisposed to not like it because of its setting, quite different from any Final Fantasy game I've ever played. FF7 was futuristic, but Spirits Within was a little too spacy.

Funny you'd mention Twin Snakes, I had my mom playing it this afternoon (did very well up until Revolver Ocelot...), I was reminded once again of the beautiful work on that. Indeed, there is no other than Hideo Kojima. I don't know about Machinima though, maybe use David Hayter as an actor? He kind of looks the part, just needs to look angrier.

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Holy dogpoo! I'm guessing Hide Kojima was inspired by those movies, rather goofy of them to use Plissken in MGS 2. I'll have to see if the local hollywood video has them in stock.

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I was joking about them being the MGS movies

Though hideo has said he designed Solid Snake to be like Snake Plisskin, in a way (you'll notice alot of references are made to those movies, including the whole smoking bit and the way snake talks). Though they could never actually tie the stories together as the years conflict.

If they were to do a live action MGS movie, they'd be obliged to use Kurt Russell.

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Isn't he a little old? I dunno, about Kurt Russell acting as Solid Snakes gives me stomach cramps.

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Well Kurt Russell is Snake Plissken...

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How about Blair Witch: the Game! you run around a huge forest looking for a witch but instead you find a house and trip over somthing in the basement...

could work!

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What about the live action Akira?

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I think a halo movie could work if it followed the story of the book Fall of Reach. That actually had a story worth hearing and it could possibly make a good movie, providing microsoft stayed out of it. Kinda early to be discussing now tho it comes out in 2007

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The big question still hangs in the air though, will Ridley Scott do the project?

Haven't heard about the Akira flick, haven't seen the original, but heard about its greatness.

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Quote: "How about Blair Witch: the Game"

There was a series Blair Witch games, made using the Nocturne engine. Not bad considering the films.

Quote: "What about the live action Akira?"

I think there was a live action film based on Akira, called Tetsuo: The Body Hammer, never seen it though.

How about a film based on Postal with Hugh Jackman as Postal Dude?

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