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Amey
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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 06:21
Hi i just want to ask u all is AMD FX-53 939 or AMD FX-53 940 better for 100% 3D games that are so real u forget that u are playing a game.
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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 06:36
If you want "100% 3D games that are so real u forget that u are playing a game", go paintballing...

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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 06:37
PARTY PROPOGANDA RAGe

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Quote: "100% 3D games that are so real u forget that u are playing a game."


There's something wrong with you.



And Jimmy.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 06:49
you'r already playing it, jimmy's not. he's an Op. he manipulates lesser beings and turns them into his minions. but on the whole. Spuds Are Great.

thanks, Indiana Jones.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 06:51
Hmm

Just get a AMD 64 instead...

What i have ^_^


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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 06:56 Edited at: 24th Jun 2005 06:58
They are AMD 64's silly Alex, you're missing the 3D game that is so real you forget you are playing a game, formerly called a point.

Amey
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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 07:01
Well just tell me is FX-53 390 or FX-53 340 better cause i am going to buy 1 next year
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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 07:19
What is wrong with doing your own research ?

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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 07:23
I dont know a damn thing about this, but im going to say the 390 simply because 390 is higher than 340...and i like higher numbers.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 07:34
Quote: "AMD FX-53 939 or AMD FX-53 940"

Quote: "AMD FX-53 390 or FX-53 340"

which is it?

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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 07:35
Quote: "Well just tell me is FX-53 390 or FX-53 340 better cause i am going to buy 1 next year "


If your not buying till next year why even ask now since the cost of cpu's will drop and new cpu's will be released before then, why would you be locking yourself into a purchase decision now?

Quote: "games that are so real u forget that u are playing a game"


I doubt any of us will see that in our life time.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 07:37
Quote: "I doubt any of us will see that in our life time."


Im not sure of that, some of that VR stuff is getting pretty damn crazy.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 08:15
Sorry guys i put 990 not 939 lolz and some people say 939 better but not sure and maybe i buying this year don't know yet and i no money to buy the new AMD 64 X2 Dual-Core processor even in the next 3 years I can't buy
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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 08:40
Quote: "Im not sure of that, some of that VR stuff is getting pretty damn crazy."


VirtualBoy was cool, but not that realistic.


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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 08:45
if you ever want to upgrade again get a 939 socket model, it is the pin format amd are continuing devloping with for the next while.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 10:01
Quote: "VirtualBoy was cool, but not that realistic"


Next you'll be telling us that 3D Glasses aren't real 3D either..

Quote: "Sorry guys i put 990 not 939 lolz and some people say 939 better but not sure and maybe i buying this year don't know yet and i no money to buy the new AMD 64 X2 Dual-Core processor even in the next 3 years I can't buy"


Might help if the X2 (it's not called Dual-Core that's the trademark name of Intels version.. retarded when companies start TMing names that describe the technology but meh) was actually publically available.

X2, X3 and X4 are going to be hitting the public market (with motherboards capable of running them, perhaps the bigger issues right now heh) by Christmas.

Not to seem funny though but the FX-55 is just as much as the X2 4200+, they're both well out of most peoples price range. Last time I checked the best deal you could get was somewhere around $400 for an OEM Edition.

When it comes to the Athlon64 FX Processors, you don't want the OEM editions. Also for thier price they don't really make much sense over the Athlon64 regular processors; I mean unless your planning on using 3D Intensive Applications, but even then your far better of buying a cheaper processor and a better graphics card.

Amey
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Posted: 24th Jun 2005 13:07
Well thanks guys i will think about it. Anyone know how to make 2 - 4 dvds with dark basic pro? cause i making a game very long so need to put in more than 1 dvd but not sure how. I meen how to make like disk 1 and disk 2 ... with dark basic pro
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Posted: 25th Jun 2005 02:01
Wow, that's quite a large game you've got going there--- would love to see screenshots

Probably the best way to do it would be to have an installer install the EXE to the user's hard drive, and arrange the media files on the DVDs in logical order (i.e. don't force the user to keep switching disks for every menial task, like the old DOS adventure games). You can easily make the EXE aware of what files are on what DVDs, so just make it prompt the user to switch to Disc X, and you can use the file exists() command to determine whether the disc was actually switched or not.

At least that's how I'd do it.


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Posted: 25th Jun 2005 02:29
2-4 DVDs? 4 DVDs is bigger than my hard drive! Good luck distributing THAT.

I think this is just uninformed foresight and needing more than one CD will be HIGHLY unlikely.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2005 02:35
Socket 478 OWNS >_< 478 WILL RULE ONCE AGAIN! bleh.....

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Posted: 25th Jun 2005 03:27
Quote: "Well thanks guys i will think about it. Anyone know how to make 2 - 4 dvds with dark basic pro? cause i making a game very long so need to put in more than 1 dvd but not sure how. I meen how to make like disk 1 and disk 2 ... with dark basic pro "


And I thought Half-Life 2 at 2.4GB was pushing it.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2005 18:49 Edited at: 26th Jun 2005 18:18
Well the game is going to be 89 hrs long i hope and maybe i make a online vr after that and every clan or guild haf their own server so no killing of players and there will be a war server for 2 guilds to VS each other. That way no player will be killed unless some guy is cazy killing hs own clan or guild members and less lagg for people what u guys think?
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 09:17
Get socket 939 because it doesn't use the slower and more expensive registered RAM and better motherboards should be available for 939. 940 is for workstations and servers, so don't get it.

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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 17:25
Quote: "Well the game is going to be 89 hrs long"
So? I can make a spinning cube stay on the screen for 89 hrs, but it makes no difference compared with spinning it for 5 secs when it comes to package size. Are you saying then that there is 89 hours of constantly changing locations, characters, materials, audio etc.?

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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 17:58
Well don't ask me i not making the story and i change it to 29 hrs for first game and 30 hrs for second and 3rd game cause its very hard to make people play the same game for 89 hrs but making them play the same story that is 89 hrs long but in 3 different games is easy
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 18:07
Grandia was ~80hours, and fit on 2 CDs
This was with the bloated Playstation format.

Elite was an open-end game, and it fit on a 15min Tape (equivilant to current PC technology you could fit around 400 copies of that onto a single Floppy Disk!)

More Gameplay != More Space, not if your smart about development.

Also Gameplay hours mean nothing really.. it took me 10hrs to complete Half-Life 2 the first time, and that was put down as an 18-20hr game. Probably because rather than pissing around I blasted around the ridiculously long Boat & Car sections.

Grandia for example though I spent 94hrs completeing, my brother did it in something like 50hrs though; he always completes RPGs quicker. So it's all down to the end player really.

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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 18:27
Grandia 2 is a long bugger also. Took me a good 60 hours from start to finish and that was without all the fun stuff. Never played the original Grandia, but I do remember Xenogears on the PSX took me about 75 hours start to finish no screwing around. Xenosaga Episode 1 was pretty long too, I think it took me somewhere around 50 hours. Haven't played Episode 2 yet, heard it wasn't too good, so I'll wait for it to go about 20$ used (I'd say 2 months from now since its already at 35$) till I play it.

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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 18:45
Really? Grandia 2 only took me like 20hours, I thought it was a little ridiculously short.

I wouldn't mind playing Grandia eXtreme though, but not seen it in the shops. Grandia 3 is looking sweeeeet ^_^

Most games I prefer to play, seem to be relatively 20hours long.
While I'm not opposed to certain games being long, and I'm against a game being too short, sometimes there is a 'just-right' cut off point.

Resident Evil 4 for example, was perfect.
It wasn't too long it got boring, and it wasn't too short you felt it was rushed.. You always need to try and look at the projected gameplay in terms of 'how will we keep the users interest?'

Tale of Symphonia was another one, that I felt was just right. Took me 38hrs to complete, which seems long but the story kept pushing me forward making me feel like I wanted to find out what was next and the game as a whole didn't feel long; but then it certainly didn't feel short.

The Final Fantasies on the other hand, after a while get kinda boring and samey. FF7 & 8 had be bored for months when I got near the end.. cause I tend to play all games straight-through, but for FF you do this and at the end you have to level up for ages just to beat the boss, despite the rest of the game being easy. FF9 on the other hand they got it right because I could just play only battling in the story and everything would be at levels according to mine.

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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 01:19
So looks like long story means nothing right? So u guys don't like to level like mad before the last bos right? I will try to make the last bos easy for your level. And i hope to put a air ship or something similar cause unlike ff u haf to fight in the air and no one fights with a air ship before. If u have any drawings on the air ship pls email me.

This is what i want in the air ship:
1) Guns lots of guns
2) The faster the better
3) Cool armor

You don't haf to put all these things in the drawings just draw something u think is nice for air battles
Amey
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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 18:33
Is turn based or real time rpg better?
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I prefer turn base...
@Raven heh I thought the same about FF7,8,9 execept nine was the one i didnt like

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Posted: 5th Jul 2005 19:04
Turn based like ff X-2? or the normal turn based?
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Posted: 5th Jul 2005 23:27 Edited at: 5th Jul 2005 23:44
To those before who thought HL 2 was big...



If your game is bigger than this, I'll eat my RAM sticks...

Edit: I got something else that tops HL 2...





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Posted: 5th Jul 2005 23:31 Edited at: 5th Jul 2005 23:33
Oh, its not mine, but I can beat that size...



And If I still had myst 4, I could totally massacre that (I know it was more then 10gb on my HD...).

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Posted: 6th Jul 2005 01:02
ut2004 is about 5GB by default, you must have a lot of addons
my steam folder is 16.3GB
the source stuff totals up over 5GB

gta san andreas is 4.7GB


somehow i seriously doubt you will use even 2 dvds, shemue on the deamcast used 3 GDROMs (3gb total) for the story and it was pretty big.
that would all fit on 1 dvd.

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I still had that strike force mod from the make the something unreal contest... don't ask why I had that - gone now

I also have 1GB of demos

and the UT 2004 case says it's 5.5

so yes, it all adds up...

If I wanted terrorists Vs Counter Terrorists I'd just buy counter strike...

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You think that's big? My MAME folder alone is over 14GBs


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Eric T
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14gbs of mame? Holy crap

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kinda straying away from the subject aren't we?

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Eric T
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Posted: 6th Jul 2005 03:18
There was a subject? I thought huge games was the subject... or atleast the author changed it to that

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nope - twas me who changed it...

muahahaha...

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uh... uuhhh... the tan one!!

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