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Geek Culture / HDTV Survey

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Great Knight
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Posted: 25th Jun 2005 03:08
I am taking a survey about HDTV. Please if you answer these quesions. Answer them with a Yes/No/Maybe. I am asking others to take this survey also. This is just to see how HDTV is and if you care.

1)Do you own a HDTV?

2)Will you be buying a HDTV in the next 2 years?

3)Do you really care if your game system supports it?

Jimmy
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Posted: 25th Jun 2005 03:12
1) No

2) No

3) Yes

Raven
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Posted: 25th Jun 2005 03:18
1/ Yes
2/ No
3/ Yes

Question is do YOU have HDTV? Because people who don't have it don't seem to understand what the fuss is about. You get a lot of gamers claiming things like the PS2 is just as graphically capable as the GameCube or X-Box, when in reality unless you have a HDTV most games loose quite a damn sight amount of quality.

If you've ever played a game on your PC then you know what HDTV is like, because it's just that chrisp visual output you've come to expect from PC Games.

Mattman
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Posted: 25th Jun 2005 03:37
Yes
No
Yes

God nobody reads signatures nowadays.
Dot Merix
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Posted: 25th Jun 2005 03:39
No
Hopefully
Yes



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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 25th Jun 2005 22:48
Quote: "
1)Do you own a HDTV?
Nope

2)Will you be buying a HDTV in the next 2 years?
Only if my current TV blows

3)Do you really care if your game system supports it?
Nope
"


geecee3
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Posted: 26th Jun 2005 06:02
1. no
2. no
3. no

I heard it pollutes your mind man. don't do it.. BTW what's TV?

mmmm....computer....
Eric T
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Posted: 26th Jun 2005 06:36
1. Sorta... its not exactly mine.
2. Depends on money
3. Yes

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Posted: 26th Jun 2005 07:20
David T
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Posted: 26th Jun 2005 19:22
1. no
2. no
3. no

"A book. If u know something why cant u make a kool game or prog.
come on now. A book. I hate books. book is stupid. I know that I need codes but I dont know the codes"
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Posted: 26th Jun 2005 21:23
no
maybe
no

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Perokreco
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Posted: 26th Jun 2005 23:11
What is HDTV(i live in Bosnia we are not so technologicaly advanced)
Drew Cameron
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 00:09
I don't know either.

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Dazzag
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 01:53
My projector has a HDMI 720p interface. Can't wait for PS3. Bluray (current upscaling can keep methinks) in 720p goodness at 104". Mmmmmm...... I've just wet myself....

And no, I haven't hooked up my XBox for Hi-Def gaming yet. Too busy. Will wait till PS3.

Cheers

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Rknight
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 12:05
1)Do you own a HDTV?
NO
2)Will you be buying a HDTV in the next 2 years?
NO
3)Do you really care if your game system supports it?
YES

... That being said, my monitor has a better resolution than HDTV and I watch HDTV on it, so I don't need an actual HDTV.

And yes, I do care and want better resolutions than normal TV.
Dot Merix
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 13:08
HDTV stands for High Definition Television... It's a new standard of quality... certain number of pixels or something on the screen.



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Ace Of Spades
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 13:13
1. no
2. i just spent $120 on a 20" tv, and its a damned good tv. Screw hdtv!
3. well, as I don't have it, would it really make any difference?(NO!)

Don't look at me like that!
Raven
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 14:16 Edited at: 27th Jun 2005 14:18
Quote: "3. well, as I don't have it, would it really make any difference?(NO!)"


You don't see a difference in Quality between watching Lord of the Rings in the Cinema or on your 20" TV? (what an odd size though, I thought they started at 21"..)

I mean it's like the argument about Widescreen, is it worth it?
Well, tell ya what.. we'll put black masking tape over one side of your TV and see if you think there is any difference.

A good example of Widescreen being necessary is in Matrix Revolutions. When I play the DVD in Standard Mode, in the Scene with Neo and Smith just after the Oracle they stand at either side of the area. In widescreen you see them both, and see them properly when it flicks between each talking/reacting. In 4:3 you just see a nice view of a building and half of them.

Same with HDTV really, while sure it is to a degree about more pixels.. they also render at high refresh being easier on the eyes.

I mean how would you rather play Half-Life 2... at a blurry 640x480, or a Sharp 1280x1024? Hmm let me think.

That's what I love about the GameCube, you can have full-widescreen 1024i without any slow-down at all.

[edit]
Oh I just thought of a good comparison heh..

Run DBP spinning a cube at the default project settings 640x480 Fullscreen Windowed.

Now run the same thing at 1024x768 Fullscreen Exclusive.

You tell me which looks better. ^_^

Kevin Picone
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 14:21
1) no
2) no
3) no

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Ace Of Spades
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 14:24
Quote: "You don't see a difference in Quality between watching Lord of the Rings in the Cinema or on your 20" TV? (what an odd size though, I thought they started at 21"..)"


Thats not what i was saying. Im saying it makes no difference if my gaming system supports it, if i can't use it anyway.

Don't look at me like that!
Raven
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 15:45
Quote: "Thats not what i was saying. Im saying it makes no difference if my gaming system supports it, if i can't use it anyway."


Your the one who said you just bought a new TV for $140.
If I were to go out and spend £140, I could get a pretty nice budget 28" Widescreen HDTV from Bush or Panasonic.

Of course you want something worthwhile you'd spend more.
Personally I can't stand curve screen TVs anymore... reflects light horribly

Eric T
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 16:05
20inches is typical for flat screens but not for curved screens. So if its curved, then 20in is weird.

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Baggers
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Posted: 27th Jun 2005 22:08
1)Do you own a HDTV?
Nope, I use the computer for a TV though if that counts ?

2)Will you be buying a HDTV in the next 2 years?
Nope

3)Do you really care if your game system supports it?
What is this games system you speak of?..we have PC's man!

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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 00:37
yes
no
OMG yes

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DBAlex
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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 01:04
1)No
2)No
3)Probably...

Although I dont see why I spent all this money on a PC if I dont use it for gaming too...

So I probably wont bother with the next gen consoles for a while...


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Cian Rice
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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 05:53
1)Yes, In fact I own 2.

2)2s all I need so no.

3) Yes.


BenDstraw
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Posted: 29th Jun 2005 07:53
Yes
No
No

I agree with Baggers a PC is a much better center of entertainment

Raven
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Posted: 29th Jun 2005 08:37
Quote: "first off, now a days we are at 1024 x 768 pixels, what your question should read is do you want to play halflife to at 2048 x 1500 do it and see the subtle difference."


Only on your desktop computer.
NTSC/PAL Televisions are running at 720x480/540

HDTV in most televisions is 720i or 1080i
Which meants... 10240x720 or 1280x1080 resolution, currently there are very few televisions on the market capable of the legendary 2x1K Resolution.

futher more to the point most games nowadays are 800x600, while yes some people will up the resolution; the fact is from a survey done by Valve is that the largest majority of gamers use a GeForce 5200 graphics card, and they tend to play Half-Life at 1024x768, or Source at 800x600. This is because that is what the card can handle.

As far as monitors are conserned, again 2x1K is a legendary and for the most part unsuable resolution. I think you'll find that very few monitors support it, and instead opt out at 1600x1200. Another point is try playing any current game at that resolution. The benchmarks of the currently most powerful graphics card GeForce 7800 GTX have shown that even at 1600x1200 it can just about be playable at 45fps in Half-Life 2 (Source).

So the real likihood of anyone actually being able to play their modern games at that resolution is low at best, particularly given the polygon counts involved. As the Resolution goes up, so does the VRAM Requirements and the Polygons Counts much go down to compensate. There is no way around that fact they are mutually exclusive things.

Quote: "Second, pounds are different from dollars, and over here in america they charge alot for a good hdtv (cheap imitations don't count, expecally unwarrented ones)"


Not really, the spending to earning power is about equal; while your actual hardware is quite a damn-sight cheaper.
I never said anything about a top-line HDTV, just one that supports it. Here if you want one capable of 1080i your talking about parting with £350+

That wasn't the point though, the point was it isn't expensive to own a TV capable of it.

Quote: "Also, I would like to ask in the matrix revolutions, does having standard screen interfere with the plot? does it become too hard to know what is going on if you don't see both people? Wide screen is nice, just not necisary, unless you actually use it RIGHT..."


Looking at a blank wall while characters are talking completely distracts from the viewing, it has nothing to do with the plot; but the ability to follow what is there. I can't stand to watch a movie where I only get to see remote slithers of the actors. I might as well get 'Matrix Revolutions on Audio Tape' ... and simply image all of that CG that several billion went into having created.

Sorry but it's always people who don't have something that generally sit there and say something like.

"Well Surround Sound is nice, but it doesn't really add anything to the movie really."

I can't sit down and watch a movie and enjoy it in the same way without Widescreen, without Surround Sound, without HDTV Sharp Images. It just doesn't seem as good. Like watching a movie from a VHS rather than DVD... sure at the time it was good stuff, but now there is something better why would I want to watch it in a crappy format?

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Posted: 29th Jun 2005 12:32
1. no (but my dad did before i moved)
2. yes
3. yes

A good example to notice the quality between HD and regular tv is to watch the Incredibles on both. I have a very nice, non-HD, new Toshiba tv. The movies looks great and clear. But on my friend's HD, you can actually see so much more detail in the cloth textures of the characters.

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indi
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Posted: 29th Jun 2005 13:43
1)Do you own a HDTV?
my mac can play them natively and i can edit them in realtime if required


2)Will you be buying a HDTV in the next 2 years?
I can just watch 1080i and 720p on my mac if required

3)Do you really care if your game system supports it?
yeah why not, it would be nice to see quality wide screen cut scenes etc.

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Posted: 29th Jun 2005 21:30
1)no
2)no
3)yes

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