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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 03:26
To everyone who read my flamebait thread, and weren't to happy with it, I'm sorry I offended you, I was trying to point out my religious beliefs and learn from other people, I guess it got outta hand, for that I'm sorry too, no hard feelings all? I ment good by it, guess should have used a more understanding approach to the matter (rather than ranting/attacking) but what done is done and I'd like to say I am sorry

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 03:31
Burn the heratic!

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 03:33 Edited at: 4th Jul 2005 03:37
It may have been the wrong approach, but I think in the end it was a productive discussion. It was a good disscusion thread and I believe Richard closed it at the proper time. I hope it helped you to find your beliefs.

P.S. The spelling is heretic, but yeah burn him at the steak....(Steak yum...)Also Sep I know someone who is Buddhist and has similar views to you. He's my brother in law.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 03:50
That's cool you're apologising, but my view on the whole thing is;

Everyone has their own beliefs

... and because of the way people are, you simply can't discuss things like this on the internet, where people think the stakes are high and the issues are important, because nobody takes other peoples views into account because they are too busy telling their own! It always ends badly.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 04:39
Yeah, most people have WAR(We Are Right)syndrome issues.. but if you want some iformation and a lot of opinion the net is a good place for discussion. If you only want fact a library is a better source.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 04:41
The thread was fine til Merranvo came along.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 04:41
I much prefer the exchange of fact...

I hate debates mostly...generally because people wont admit they are wrong

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 04:53
This is exactly why I don't communicate with real-life people.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 05:04
as some one else said, unless the forum is specialised in religious discussions, they should not be brought up, I was wrong to, but I learnt somethong from it, so its not all bad, I'll stick religious/politcals arguements to the politics and religion forum in places like myspace

@Keaz, cool, so I guess that explains your more understanding tone in the arguement I'll keep my rants to myself and to people who agree with me or who pick an arguement with me

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 08:12
Jimmy hit the nail on the head

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 08:27
whats the prob with Merranvo? He didn't seem like a bad dude...I don't know some of you so I'm prolly missing bits, general talk isn't exactly where I usually post

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 09:13 Edited at: 4th Jul 2005 09:14
Quote: "(And PLEASE don't indirectly quote me... I REALLY hate that)"


A wise man once said.

How true, how very very true.



I don't like listing reasons I dislike someone, Merravno, and I don't have a serious problem with you, so I'm not going to bother.

Anyway, someone set us up the bomb.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 10:23
I think expressing your views is fine but Its just when your view contradicts or put someone elses view down it causes war. I wish people could be more understanding sometimes to allow for healthy discussion of politics and religion. But I agree if people arent going to just suck it up and be nice then we shouldnt even start with those kinda of threads!!

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 12:31
Every time you say "I don't believe in flamewars", a mod somewhere drops dead.

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I don't believe in flamewars I don't believe in flamewars I don't believe in flamewars I don't believe in flamewars I don't believe in flamewars I don't believe in flamewars I don't believe in flamewars I don't believe in flamewars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 13:20
Merranvo. Yes. It is their sick pleasure to watch us fight amongst ourselves.

Thusly they lock threads when people start flaming eachother. Oh, and ban people that flame eachother.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 13:56
Quote: " Is that where all you mods get your kicks off of? "


Actually I get mine from the crates of crystal meth Rich pays me weekly for banning my quota of users. But to each their own, right?

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 17:47
Hey, I have crystal mesh pants!

Oop, wait, you said crystal meth. Please disregard the above.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 22:30
if you say I don't believe in flamewars enough hopefully mouse will drop dead

@Oneka you murderer!!!! (well it was all in the name of goodness anyway )

Soooo......you mods are rich from banning us..........cool, and I thought alll my money making schemes where good ideas, becoming a mod is sooo much better than bank robbe....I mean selling lemonade

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Posted: 4th Jul 2005 23:35
Wait... what did I miss? What are your religous beliefs exactly, very breifly, so you don't offend anyone again as it would appear you did already from your language? Your not Wicca are you? My friend is, and she's insane

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Me, Agnostic (Searching Atheist, rendering towards Buddhism) and I disagree with a lot of bits of Christianity, I've learnt to accept them though, although.........(won't say anything more) I believe violence is wrong, should be used when only extremely necessary, just war doesn't exist, all war is injust, humans are above the animals, as they are animals themselves.

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Posted: 5th Jul 2005 00:11
While we're on the topic, what is Buddhism exactly?

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Quote: "Me, Agnostic (Searching Atheist, rendering towards Buddhism) and I disagree with a lot of bits of Christianity, I've learnt to accept them though, although.........(won't say anything more) I believe violence is wrong, should be used when only extremely necessary, just war doesn't exist, all war is injust, humans are above the animals, as they are animals themselves."

I don't see a problem there... you are very admirable.

Buddism- it is about finding inner peace, rather than worshipping someone, like Christians worship God and Jesus, etc. It believes that materalism is bad. I don't know that much about it, but it certainly is better than Christianity. However, I am totally Atheist. I don't believe that a God ever could or would want to make such a damned screwd up world. I think that chance is far more applicable. I really don't see why that would offend anyone though, seppuku.

However, I do have one disagreement- violence is justified easily. For example, if you saw your girlfriend/ boyfriend about to be mugged, sexually assualted or murdered, I beleive it is well within your right to do something about it- if you kill the scumbag in doing so, fine. Some may call that extreme- I call that Justice. I refuse to believe that even the most bleedin' heart liberal there is would not do the same thing in that sort of situation.

Should anyone disagree, feel free to say why- please keep it within reason though. I could go into more detail about my philosophy on politics and such, but I will not bore you unless I am asked.

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Posted: 5th Jul 2005 01:52
Hi there.
Mouse said this:
"There's more data in our genes numbskull"

The really interesting part about this data is that it includes all the evolutionary steps taken by human kind. This can be evidenced through monitoring the growth of a human child from conception to birth. In the womb we move though various stages of our evolution such as growing gills and tails and the like.

I can’t imagine what we would be doing with gills and what have you if the bible is correct. But maybe someone can enlighten me (Pun absolutely intended)

For me it comes down to this. I don’t think Christians really believe it when it comes to the crunch. My aunt Kate died at the ripe old age of 92, she had been a dedicated Christian all her life and made all the sacrifices necessary to adhere to the teachings of the bible. If there was anyone on this earth who had done enough to deserve to enter heaven it was she. Her last words were "Oh no, I’m going to die" She didn't sound to convinced all of a sudden. Given that heaven is supposed to be a paradise it’s amazing how many apparently religious people are terrified of going there.

@Seppuku Geijutsu

Buddhism may seem to be what you are looking to fit into but who told you you had to take on any religion? I share your view that Buddhism is the least destructive religion by far but it also has some wacky stuff. The whole idea is that when you die you are automatically reincarnated and one you have gone through many incarnations and reached enlightenment you no longer get reincarnated. The spiritual side of it is kind of the opposite of Christianity in that you are looking to cease to be rather than to live forever in some form. I feel this is one reason why Buddhists are a great deal less arrogant than Christians.

I am not religious, I do meditate but I’m not a Buddhist by a long way. I have absolutely no fear of death, I smoke, I drink, I do other stuff and I ride a very fast motorcycle (And I like living in Northern Ireland). I think that accepting that you are going to die and that death is the end is very liberating, sure I might not live to be fifty or i might get all the skin ground off my ass at 140 mph but at least I will have lived.

Go your own way mate, it takes a great deal more strength and character to stand up and say what you are saying than it does to fall in with the flock. You have my respect by the cart load my man.

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Posted: 5th Jul 2005 01:59
Go Nemo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I think we go to a big round peice of brie cheese when we die. And then we eat that delicious cheeseyness for the rest of eternity. Unless we eat too much then we hurl on the people who don't like brie. That's the life... or after-life. But seriously(it's true), everyone will end up offending other people when they express their views on this kinda stuff because No matter what you say about death or religion it's contradicting somone elses belief. Anyway we all know who's really incharge of the universe... it's this guy:

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Brie??? Why npt chedder, I have brie, so when I die I'm gonna be welcomed to the smell of cheese!! aghhh!!!!! I wanna live!!!


@Jlb, Well extreme, justice, violence in the sense of justice when its your last resort only, you can stop your girlfriend getting mugged by scaring the dude, if he's persistant, has a knife or something or is just plainly gonna hurt you if you don't do anything, well thats when its okay to get violent in my view.



@ Nemo, i'm going into buddhism because I believe in a lot of things it comes out with, and I'm really interested in it, I believe enlightenment is when someone see's something they couldn't see before, complete enlightenment is you see everything beyond what is hidden, hence the story of sidhartha, he lived in a rich kingdom hidden from the horrors of the world, then he saw it, enlightened and eventually joined some monks in meditation, and found enlightenemnt Of course before I can make valid points, I'll look more into it.


And no more religious talk!!!!!!! Unless it doesn't start anything bad like I did....oops

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Posted: 5th Jul 2005 03:19
Seppuku:

I think you're doing this on purpose..

Thanks to you, now we have more Athiests firing at the Christians once again..

Quote: "I don't know that much about it, but it certainly is better than Christianity. "


Quote: "For me it comes down to this. I don’t think Christians really believe it when it comes to the crunch."


Even though I am a Christian and I find both of those offensive I'm not even going to fight back but I guarantee you if you let this sit for a while there's gonna be a big ol' fashion flamewar.

Peace


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Buddhism sounds fun. Where do I sign up?

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Quote: "Anyway, someone set us up the bomb."

I believe it's "someone set up us the bomb."


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Quote: "I believe it's "someone set up us the bomb.""


Bomb? I hate bomb! Bomb is stupid!

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Quote: "I don't know that much about it, but it certainly is better than Christianity."


Gotta love these generalized over-simplistic statements. I think World Religions should be a mandatory class in University :p


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jeku, i think its cos of things like that that people get bored of religeon and grow to hate it. im not sure how it is in canada, but in the UK its goes something like this:

from the age of 4, as in the first yr of school, children are made to sing hyms (sp?) right up until probably secondary schools.
the secondary school i went to we were forced to go to chapel services 3 times a week.
I'm now in sixth form college (aged 17) and still being preached to about jesus etc for assemblies, although we dont have to put our hands together to pray to God any more.
none of the school's ive been to have been labelled as catholic or C of E schools.

relious preaching in schools schould be banned imo, especially when you consider the fact that pre 9/11 islam was growing in the UK at such a rate that it was due to overpopulate the christians in the UK (not sure now that 9/11 has happened and islam's growth has declined since), but what would have happened? would it be a case where in 10 yrs time assemblies in schools would be preaching that jesus wasn't crusified and all the kids will have to stand up in assemblies and suddenly prey to mecca at the end, or even start going to mosques instead of churches?

edit: i just realised, i probably just started off the whole religeon debate thing, but i swear i was just responding the the sentance jeku stated.
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Posted: 5th Jul 2005 07:21 Edited at: 5th Jul 2005 07:24
Same here teh, schools should be neutral instead of religion biased (we've had hindu's have to sing hyms about the greatness of jesus and their god, thats down to school and government not religion)

but this thread was made for me to apologise and people to post then it to be completely ignored, not to carry on from the now locked one, I'm sorry if you atheists weren't there to join sides at the time, thats sod's law, at the rate this is going at I'm gonna be assinated!! (joke lol) so no more atheist comments, sounds like people are feeling it'll turn out like the other thread, so lets do what I should've done, keep our opinions to ourselves and save it for forums (like on myspace, I wonder if its been 7 days so I can post) that specialise in religion.


@ Megaton, welcome to Buddhism, if you want I'll keep you posted on Buddhism by email (as I learn myself) or you can google it and do it yourself, look into Dalai lama, he's a really famous buddhist and very wise, here is the buddhist quote of the day
If a tree in forest collapses and know one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

@teh, which 6th form college it better not be the pure evil one that wouldn't let me in although I was more than qualified because to many cambridge school applicants chose it? being Long Road 6th form, the 6th form I dream of going to ever since I cared about education and know I'm going to my crappy school one (although we got a pool table....)

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Quote: "Thusly they lock threads when people start flaming eachother. Oh, and ban people that flame eachother."


it's simple. The sinister pleasure they recieve from locking threads and banning people surpass the pleasure they recieve from looking at flame wars. Thus they love flame wars, but stop them becuase they love locking threads even more

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merranvo.......


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Quote: "everyone will end up offending other people when they express their views on this kinda stuff because No matter what you say about death or religion it's contradicting somone elses belief"

I don't see how contradicting someone's belief is offensive. Unless you call everyone else stupid for what they believe in, there should be no offense in stating what you believe.

Quote: "Her last words were "Oh no, I’m going to die" She didn't sound to convinced all of a sudden."

Even knowing they will be in a better place, many Christians have a good reason to be sad upon death. They know they will not be amongst their living relatives and friends any more. Espetially when their relatives/friends are not Christians.

Quote: " I don’t think Christians really believe it when it comes to the crunch."

Then how come thousands of them stood firm durin their executions? To this day Christians are killed in countries where it is forbidden to be one. Some may doubt, doesn't mean they all do. The romans burnt Christians who sang hymns despite the pain and consequent death.


oh, btw...
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Why thank you.

Quote: " I don’t think Christians really believe it when it comes to the crunch."


That's insulting... believe whatever you want to, but out of basic respect for other people, don't assume you know what they believe better than they do. Especially in a generalized context.

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Quote: "don't assume you know what they believe better than they do. Especially in a generalized context."

Yeah don't, thats Mouse's territory.


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Quote: "Seppuku:

I think you're doing this on purpose..

Thanks to you, now we have more Athiests firing at the Christians once again..


Quote: "I don't know that much about it, but it certainly is better than Christianity. "


Quote: "For me it comes down to this. I don’t think Christians really believe it when it comes to the crunch."

Even though I am a Christian and I find both of those offensive I'm not even going to fight back but I guarantee you if you let this sit for a while there's gonna be a big ol' fashion flamewar.

Peace"


Quote: "Quote: "I don't know that much about it, but it certainly is better than Christianity."

Gotta love these generalized over-simplistic statements. I think World Religions should be a mandatory class in University :p"


I have a few things to say about that.

Firstly, at lest buddists don't try and convert others unfairly. For example, mother theresa. She was almost evil, in my opinion. For example, she would only help others if they converted to christianity. Now ask yourself this- would a buddist do the same? Exactly. Like I said, I don't know that much about them, and I know I shouldn't 'generalize' my view of christianity on a woman, but her sort are hard to ignore. I think what I said was not offensive- it was my opinion, and I am personally more offended by christianity and, in my opinion, it is a horrible religion (the bible is full of contridictions and things that don't apply to modern day- there is no denying that.) Not as bad as catholisismn, but right up there anyway. But hey, that is my opinion, and no doubt this thread will get shut down for it when all the evangelists decide to get angry over what I just said. Oh well. At least I think things through instead of reffering to a book thousends of years old, huh?

And I do not think what I said was a generalization. On the contrary, most people living in the west would probably say the total opposite. So just becuase more people say something, that makes it less of a generalisation? I don't think so.

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Quote: "For example, she would only help others if they converted to christianity."


I'd wager more than a nickel that that is completely false.

Quote: "things that don't apply to modern day- there is no denying that."


What does that mean, exactly, that it "doesn't apply to modern day"?

Quote: "Oh well. At least I think things through instead of reffering to a book thousends of years old, huh?"


If you think that pile of crap was thought through, you need to re-adjust your 'thought through' detector. I'll tell you honestly, based on that post alone I'd say you're no more than 13 years old.

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Actually, im 18, (hence the username... it's basic maths that i'm either 17 or 18), I go to school, and I study philosophy and ethics. Lukily I have a teacher who does not hold back, and tells us everything about people we are or have studied (for example, st Thomas Aquinas), and those we don't actually study but whose name's crop up (mother theresa). and yes, that is absolutly true.

I bet you didn't know that once, when visting the west, she went into supermarket, absolutly filled her trolley up to the brim, went to the check out and when asked for payment she said 'God will pay you when you die' (thats probably not what she said word by word but it was something along those lines). She held up the queue, and refused to move until someone behind her in the queue insisted on paying for her. Disgusting.

So, yes, it is true. I listen, I study, and ultimatly, I tend to get my facts right. I'm not saying I always do, but I tend to. I'll be waiting by the postbox for that nickel.

Apply to modern day... well, these days it isn't REALLY wrong to be gay, is it? Well, not unless your part of some neo-nazi movement, anyhow. But most people now accept that homosexuality is just another common thing these days. I personally think it is disgusting that the church, in some places, still thinks that the actual act of homosexuality is wrong. While I find the thought of gay sexual acts disgusting, to some people it is normal, it's who they are. There are many other things too- "though shalt not kill", for example- as I stated before, I believe that killing and vilolence can be justified, ESPECIALLY in this day and age, which I'm sure is a whole lot more full of moral evil than bacck in the holy times.

And I stand by what I say. I'm not saying all christianity is wrong-far from it. At least some christians have firm principles, albeit one's set by the bible. However, to live your life by the bible... now that is, in my opinion, very wrong. ONe of my philosophy and ethics teachers regards himself as a 'thinking'christian- i.e. he takes the christian teachings into account but, at the end of the day, he'll use situatuion ethics to decide what is best to do, not what the bible thinks it is.

Judging by your post, Jimmy, I'd say you are a narrowminded 20 or over year old who reads and hears what he wants to, and ignores the facts. Oh well.

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I'm gonna say some stuff now...

Its nice having a strong back up now, but is not really the time nowm bit late, glad people like buddhism.

Second,
Jimmy, whatt J was saying about Mother Theresa is true, great woman,but even my huge Christianity fan RE teacher has brought up that Mother Theresa is in fact partially evil because she didn't do exactly what the 'christian' thing to do, she preached to lot of leaders about her views, rather than reasoned etc. My RE teacher has met mother theresa, the only thing she said was hi, but he didn't think much of her, and the dude who teaches me Karate on a wednesday got an award off of her for his work in Albania, and well he did more good than Mother theresa, personally I say she isn't the kind of christian I would believe a true christian would be, but she is a good inspiration.

OKAY NOW LETS STOP WITH THESE RELIGIOUS DEBATES! PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY DON'T LIKE EM HERE

finally, I am more tolerant of Christianity for the faults in christians are the people not the religion, as I told someone off on My Space for thinking jews were to blame for Jesus's death, I won't go any further......AND NO ONE TRY TO MAKE ANYMORE ARGUEMENTS!!!!!!!IT MAY GET OUT OF HAND, IF YOU WANNA ARGUE, join http://www.myspace.com you'll have to wait 7 days before you can post threads into the forum, but you can look at my profile and maybe argue with me in the meanwhile, my profile is
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Posted: 6th Jul 2005 01:37 Edited at: 6th Jul 2005 01:43
Quote: "I don't see how contradicting someone's belief is offensive. Unless you call everyone else stupid for what they believe in, there should be no offense in stating what you believe."


the bit i find offensive when someone tries to contradict my or anyone elses religeous beliefs, is that they're usually just made up on the spot, have no backing, and no knowledge of what my beliefs are. its like saying "milk chocolate isn't brown", when you havent even looked at a milkchoclate before. if you had actually looked at the chocolate, then i might actually think "hey, maybe he's right, he's seen it and is sure its not brown, maybe i am colourblind".

that's never the case though. I once was approached in the IRC channel, by some c0ck saying "you dont even believe in dinosaurs!".

well, i ask, pick up the koran, and look for anywhere where it says dinosaurs didnt exist, and then come and tell me that.
in further news, as a kid i actually wanted to become (amongst other things) a paeleontologist (person who hunts fossils and dinosaur bones etc). Tell me now that i dont believe in dinosaurs.

likewise, if anyone wants to come and claim and contradict anything about my beliefs, i suggest you actually look into them first (even if it's just via google), before just going along with some playground talk.

edit: and a more recent example, in that thread i saw someone say "religeon is a fear of science". I'm a muslim, one of the major religeons in the world, pick up the koran and look for anywhere that says "thou art muslim! abolish all test tubes and things!". instead you'll find quote's such as "study the birds and trees". islam's a very pro-science religeon, as you'd see if you picked the book up. thats why the middle east was so technologically advanced compared to the rest of the world in the middle ages.

if religeon was a fear of science, tell me why over 50% of the kids in my college who are studying science are religeous. also tell me why i've never lived in an area where the local doctor isnt a sikh/jew/muslim.
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Posted: 6th Jul 2005 02:25
I'm sorry all religious debates in any of my threads is now forbidden, please post your religious views elsewhere, I don't want you to make my mistake in one of my own threads, I am saying this although I agree with you, as I said, leave the debates to my space.com, they have a lot of w#£$%£"rs there to debate with, I am currently argueing with someone who is being racist to jews, well not having a 'go' or otherwise I would be being spiteful, and spite is forbidden in the Buddhist teachings of Metta. So no more RELIGION in any more of my threads please, because I do not want anything like what I started last time, and I would be likely to get the blame if anyone started anything.

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Posted: 6th Jul 2005 02:28
jib - I can't help but think you need to see more of the world before you make any more closeminded statements. Referring to the mods as 'evangelists' is plain stupid and will get you nowhere.

You're accusing Christians of following a book thousands of years old? Should I remind you that Buddhism was started around 550 BC? Of course I'm not the one who blindly follows a schoolteacher's point of view without doing my own research.

And another thing. Stop mixing up Catholicism with Christianity. While I don't agree with your comments about mother Teresa, you do realize she was Catholic, don't you?


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Posted: 6th Jul 2005 02:51
Quote: "Gotta love these generalized over-simplistic statements. I think World Religions should be a mandatory class in University "

Nope, preschool when kids still know right from wrong and only have their own moral consious to go by.

P.S. A mod will need to lock this Seppu in order for it to stop. I admire your apoligy, but it only fanned the flames.(1 apoligy is good enough, I already know you regretted this thread even if you thought it was necessary.)

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Posted: 6th Jul 2005 02:53
re-reading jib's post, i ask how can you come up with that crap and call jimmy narrow-minded?

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