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Geek Culture / Battlefield 2's terrible single player :(

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Mucky Muck Ninja
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Posted: 8th Jul 2005 10:26
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I downloaded the demo of BF2 and liked it a lot, so I bought the game, naturally assuming that the singleplayer options would be customizable as in 1942. To my great surprise, EVERY map was "16" and there was no way to change it! I couldn't even change the tickets! None of the multiplayer games work very well, too laggy, and single player is boring. There aren't even any aircraft carriers in single mode. Furthermore, since the ranking system only counts for multiplayer, I can't get the unlockable weapons! Does anyone know if it will be possible to have 64 bots in singleplayer ever?
Please help

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Matt Rock
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Posted: 8th Jul 2005 11:44
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The thing that EA doesn't realize is that not everyone has a 3 GHz + processor, 2 GB + RAM, and a 256 video card. It's why a lot of people have gone back to playing BF42.

Take a look at Battlefield Vietnam. It has gone widely unnoticed and jeaprodized the franchise relatively quickly after its release because it sold poorly compared to most other EA titles. The concept was, well, a vietnam game, but with that classic battlefield twist. And the ability to play music from your vehicle was totally rad. But where they goofed was making the game require a very high end machine to run it... even with the settings low, the game still runs poorly on some machines that don't pack a lot of RAM. Once again, EA made the mistake of making a game that can only be run lag-free on a diety's computer. Sure, it's fun for the people who have computers like that, Alienware's and the like, but for Joe Public's Dell, BF2 is a nightmare. I refuse to ever make a game that runs exclusively on high-end machines... it's the same principal that fuels my hatred of Macs... broadly put, software should be universally adaptable to computers. I guess you could call me a software socialist

Anyway, with my rant exausted... I play BF42 in Wagoogee's modded omaha and Alfred GG a lot (I'm Simon Phoenix ) and I heard someone else talking about single player being rancid. There's supposedly a mod out there for it, but I just searched the net and didn't turn anything up. What specs does your PC have? In the very least maybe I could help you clean up the multiplayer aspects.

- Matt Rock

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Eric T
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Actually, what causes the lag on the BF2 servers is punkbuster. Thats always been the problem with BF2. But, you can find a manual punkbuster update on the net (i forgot its location) which cuts down alot of lag. That and I noticed even less lag since the 1.1 patch.

Another note, when doing multiplayer you must remember the rule of thumb

play 16 player - 56k and ISDN
play 32 player - lower end Cable and DSL connections
play 64 player - High end Cable +

Runs great on my PC though

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Mucky Muck Ninja
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Posted: 8th Jul 2005 13:13 Edited at: 8th Jul 2005 13:14
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Im not exactly sure what kind of internet connection i have there is a router on top of the comp that connects to our local network which is apple's airport. I think its also dsl. My comp is a HP Pavillion 2800+ mhz 512 ram 120 gig drive and I have an nVidia FX 5200 gfx card in it. You would think it would run well :/


and, not to start a flame war...but....Macs are BEST!!!

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Matt Rock
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Posted: 8th Jul 2005 13:23
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I'll avoid conflict altogether by not commenting on macs any more than I already have, hehe.

If you have a router then I'm assuming you have cable, but I might be wrong. If you connect via ethernet then cable is probably what you've got.

With 512 MB of ram, you'll get a lot of lag in BFV, and most assuredly you'll experience the same in BF2. One of the things that makes XP a terrible OS is that it eats up a lot of your system to run, and that doesn't leave much in lieu of running other software (like games, for instance). If you get another 512 mb of RAM you'll see a lot less lag

Eric, PB does cause a lot of lag, but BF2 (and BFV) are resource hogs... it's more likely his lack of RAM that's causing the multiplayer problem.

There's a master chief I see a lot in BF42... are you him? Do you know [R] Simon Phoenix (1A)? Just curious.

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Mucky Muck Ninja
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Posted: 8th Jul 2005 14:01
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Well I am MasterChief54924 in BF2(and practically every other game) and I barely ever play online so I doubt it. That is most annoying, when I got this comp 512 megs of ram was pretty damn good. Ive been looking at alienware's and wishing but I just don't have the dough for one.

Couldn't say for sure if Ive ever seen you. mostly in online I drive around in a car and run people over until either I go off a cliff or a tank gets me

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Posted: 8th Jul 2005 17:06
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lol as long as you aren't basecamping it's all good, hehe. 512 megs IS pretty darn good, but EA is being nutty lately. They make games that not many computers can run well. My vaio has a 3 ghz processor and 1 ghz of ram, but when I first got BFV it ran poorly because I only had 512 MB of ram. I bought an additional 512 megs and now it runs smooth.

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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i got an xp3200, with 512mb ram with a radeon 9800 and it runs fine on medium settings.

Quote: "The thing that EA doesn't realize is that not everyone has a 3 GHz + processor, 2 GB + RAM, and a 256 video card. It's why a lot of people have gone back to playing BF42.
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Hey, I only have an athlon xp2500+ overclocked to 2.5ghz with 1.5gb corsair xms3200llpt cas2 ram with a 256mb radeon x800pro vid card and it runs fine on max settings with 6xFullScene Anti-Aliasing and 16xAnistropic Filtering at 1600x1200 res... I don't know what people are moaning about

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MiR
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2.5ghz? What happened to the 2.7 one? Did you fry it? I´m still open to donating me the 2.4ghz one. Hell I´ll even pay post and packaging.


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The 2.7ghz one is the one I'm using. The thing is, when you use 3x512mb ram sticks (1.5gb) problems occur if the ram speed isn't lowered due to the memory controller of nforce2 mobo's (abit nf7-s rev2.0 in particular). Personally I won't lower the speed of the ram below 400mhz DDR (200mhz) even with all 3 ram sticks in.. this causes errors at 2.7ghz so I've had to lower the cpu speed down to 2.5ghz to be fully stable.

I sold one of my athlon xp mobile cpu's (I had three) and all of them do 2.5ghz.. some take more voltage to get there though... lol

For example, the one I'm currently using takes 2.1v to reach 2.7ghz but is fine at 1.95v for 2.5ghz.

I'm keeping my spare one for said reason, as a spare. I like to have backup parts just incase.

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