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MarkDark
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Hello.

I was thinking if they could do a book teaching kids how to program in DarkBASIC. It would be good if they did.

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PowerSoft
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Posted: 13th Jul 2005 22:58
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Mark,

The "Beginners Guide to DarkBASIC" is the book you need. I have heard it is good for DBC. I also believe it contains basic information on DBPro IIRC

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Xenocythe
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I can prove DarkBasic is for kids!

I'm 11 years old! Lol, I bet I'm the only 11 year old on this forum.

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Posted: 14th Jul 2005 00:48
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Quote: "I bet I'm the only 11 year old on this forum"


I'd bet you're not, but it's probably illegal for me to bet with a minor

There are people here younger, I know of one guy around here who is teaching his 8 year old right now.

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Xenocythe
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So I have some compitition? Lol j/k

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Green fox you sound like you like to use a lot of abreviations for you words.

[quote]So I have some competition? Lol j/k

[quote]I'm 11 years old Lol.

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I use to chat alot with my freinds

Got used to the Leet... I hate leet.

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you mean leet asin l337?

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Xenocythe
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yes...

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P Schnell
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Don't you have to be 13 to use the forum?


I started at 11, I'm 14 now, though.

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Drew Cameron
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Quote: "I'm 11 years old! Lol, I bet I'm the only 11 year old on this forum."


I bet you aren't.
But there is nothing wrong with starting early!


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Damokles
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DarkBASIC for kids ?

Sure ! I was 8 when I started programming, but this was BASIC on C64. So I'm 100% sure it is worthy. As long as we keep in mind that we'll never redo Halo II

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The sooner you start, the better you know the basics. But you have to get older to understand and use the maths that are used in games... ( Tell me about it )

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I remember I made hang man, wheel of fortune, but also some fake chat-AI, ...

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DarkBASIC isn't that hard to learn. I've made dozens of successful games, including Slayer: Battle Tanks http://slayer-battletanks.tripod.com. And I'm only 14.

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I started QB when I was 12. Then it was a quick shift into Blitz2d, Blitz3d, and then a final settle in DBC @ 13. Three years down the road I'm playing with 8 way array split file encrypting in C++ and Torque. Once you get hooked on this stuff it's a roller coaster of learning. Starting early is a good way to get to know computers like the back of your hand and is a doorway to a successful career. My friend and I last year took a C++ class at the local community college and while we (the high school freshmen w00t) were zooming ahead at first then finishing the last 16 chapters in the last week adults in the class were having a tough time because their background was in basic web development or maybe just a math major. Although there were some pretty cool people there who were just in for the credit and could code circles around us. That was fun. We barely even worked during lab time because we were talking with this guy about God of War, Halo, Final Fantasy, and such.

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W00t! AGE MATCH!!!!

These things normally get buhleeted by mods, and anyway, being young is a bonus - it's how GOOD you are that matters

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OK! I'll admit it! Ampersand Laboratories is just a 12-year-old programmer making a media player in DBPro! And I'll put it on my website in a day, too!!!

For the Software You Want, AMPERSAND LABORATORIES is the place! [URL=http://www.andlabs.com/]
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How old is MarkDark??

PS - I learned DarkBASIC when I was around 11 or 12 and started being into programming! It's easy with that Beginner's book that PowerSoft told MD about. The authors are so good with their lessons. I just wish I didn't lose the CD, back cover, and spine...

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Actually, I started RPG Maker (LOL) when I was like 8. When I was 10 I got DarkBasic. Sorry, *I found darkbasic*

I'm not afraid to tell people my age, because I think I'm a pretty good programmer...

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Ive started with 12

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Y'know, GreenFox, you got a point there. However, I did want to keep my age secret 'til I was around 16. My programming skills are extreme. I recently learned C#, and I plan to write a book on it for the UK/US in easy steps (http://www.ineasysteps.com/) series, because the one already there focuses on Windows development.

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Quote: "I'm not afraid to tell people my age, because I think I'm a pretty good programmer..."

Well, that's not the point. If the rules are set like this, it's not to discrimianate younger ones, but to protect them.

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I agree with Sven B, many of us started programming beeing a child (at 9 age) and have tried several platforms: Amstrad CPC, MSX, Game Boy, PC...

However you need to be older to really understand better the phisics, complex math operations and A.I. in the games. Now at 29 age I've a very more clear mind to solve problems that when I was 9

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what about isupportlearnng??? thats how me, an 11 years old boy learned it. isl should be more famous. way more!!!!

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Im only 14 and have released 1 fairly secussful program and have another one in the works. But ive been prrogramming a commmodore 64 since i was 7.


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Dark Baisc for Kids?

Must've been 5/6 when I got interested in making games, I asked my Dad to teach me Amos 3D, which was the old programmer for the Amiga, he said it would take a whole weekend....and he never got around to it either.....git, I wanted to make my own monkey island game too, and push over, noddy(that was a classic for kids) and a game I forgot the name of(it reminded me of robo cop)

So I see no prob in DB for Kids. I started DB at 14, before it was The Games factory from about when I was 11

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was the robocop game electro-body i rember playing it.


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I was 8 when I started programming in QBasic
Its only a few years later now and I'm on to DBP.


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no i don't think it was electro body, he only looked like robocop from the top, then when you're level was complete you'd see a picture of your character, and well he look nothing like him, we had it on the amiga.....you'd shoot aliens and save people, and collect things if I remember it correctly (I could be mixing it up with a game of a similar style)

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I started programming off with DBC in 1999 when it came out.


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Hey, my kid's using DarkBASIC Professional and he's not even been born yet!




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I know that for a while I wanted to write/make a picture book for very young children that introduced them to concepts like "print", "input" and commands in order. It would have featured a pet robot.

An introduction to the concepts would help later on in life for those people who are destined to scream...

"But WHY won't it do what I want it to!!?!"

Maybe it could be a childrens game, instead of a book.
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I'm 15, started programming at 14 and I have wanted to program forever. DB is my answer to all the prayers Ive asked for. YAAAAY DB!

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I'm soooo with vgames master! um, *cough* but dbpro is better *cough* *cough*

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I started Basic Programming at age 6 on a TRS-80 with a 1Mhz Z80 processor and 1k ram and a cassette tape drive I made with my older brother. I wrote a Graphic/Txt RPG then... I learned from the TRS-80 manual. The best things to teach young kids 3-5ys old is reading and basic math. Then start with the basics like data types (mainly strings/numbers you can get more detailed later as they learn more math). Also teach them about input and output. A good first project is a simple text based game. Then move on to 2D like pong. It's not impossible for a 7-8 yr to make a pong like game.

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As a side effect of teaching your kids to program their math skills will improve faster than their peers as they need more complex math for more complex projects. It will also help when they go to learn algebra as they will be already used to variables.

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Of course kids can program in dark basic! I swear i hear more and more about kids programming in c and the likes. Cant say i started when i was real young, as all i was doing back then was html(pitty me). Started dark basic back in september, when i got the demo. Back then i was 12 and before then i had beem trying to master c, but when i decided to try basic again(did quick basic for a while) dark basic was the perfect option.

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Quote: "I started Basic Programming at age 6 on a TRS-80 with a 1Mhz Z80 processor and 1k ram and a cassette tape drive I made with my older brother. I wrote a Graphic/Txt RPG then... I learned from the TRS-80 manual. The best things to teach young kids 3-5ys old is reading and basic math. Then start with the basics like data types (mainly strings/numbers you can get more detailed later as they learn more math). Also teach them about input and output. A good first project is a simple text based game. Then move on to 2D like pong. It's not impossible for a 7-8 yr to make a pong like game. "


Woah... you got me beat, Keaz. We had a TSR-80 Model 1 (with tape drive) too... but I didn't program till we got our next computer a TI Professional. Of course I did program on the Bally Arcade when we had the TSR-80. That was fun. It had a number keypad and you had to hit a color key (red,green,blue) then a number on the keypad to type "A" or whatever. I'm glad Darkbasic is available to the youth of the world... it sucks starting with black and white monitors with pixles the size of the tip of a pinky finger. Ah the memories.

For all the youngins:

Here's a TSR-80:


Here's a Bally Arcade:
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Our English room has something that looks almost identical the the TSR-80 picture you posted!

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And my grandma uses an Enigma as a typewriter!

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I started programming (with Game Maker) when I was...um, I'd say 12.

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Xeno the type of chat people do with abbreviations and the leet language are two very different things. Leet or 1337 is a computer language developed by hackers for private chatting purposes, using j/k and lol and ttyl and brb and all of that hooplaw is waaaay different.

Now then, to correct the sentence, it should have been

"RUCCUS is 1337"

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Not only should kids have darkbasic, but I would encourage anyone who needs to make a game by themselves to use this language! Programming a game in c++(which I use as well) is exceedingly difficult and time consuming. Darkbasic is a snap, and it is pretty fun as well. Any one starting game programming is encouraged by me to get the language, as long as they don't get too stuck in the bad basic habits, like ...GOTO....(shudders)

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Exactly. I think DarkBASIC appears to younger audiences very well. I noticed this DarkBASIC engine when I was snooping around some software in a computer store and read the words "Create your own 3D games..." and from there I was hooked at age 13 or 12. I then started programming and now am 14 an have lots of good games out on my sites, http://www.rhettgames.tk http://www.slayerbattletanks.tk. I love DarkBASIC and program nearly every day with it.

I'm making a new really cool game (if you haven't already read), entitled Slayer: Battle Tanks 2. A complete remake of my previous, you guessed it, Slayer: Battle Tanks 1 game. This game should be out soom for free download.

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*yawns* Okay yall i'm kinda gettin sleepy... I'll cya guys on the forums later. Okay? Byee!

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exnocythe: i know that you arent the youngest one, i started programming with db when i was ten.

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Well maybey your 11 but I am only 10

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Well maybey your 11 but i am only 10

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Quote: "However you need to be older to really understand better the phisics, complex math operations and A.I. in the games. Now at 29 age I've a very more clear mind to solve problems that when I was 9"


Not really, I'm a pure genius for my age
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SURE.

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