sweet, I might try that, my norton is down, because it wants and update, its the 2002 edition so its old in the sense of virus's, GogetaX sent me one over MSN (a while back), he says its better than my nortons, so I'll try that now my norton won't let me use it.
And I'm gonna try webmessenger considering its still down, and firefox is not detecting the main website of TGC I'm accessing the forums via using forum. rather than www. is something wrong?
I think my BT server is being a little evil, Opera was being very slow, no msn, I'm guessing the TGC problem is not a error of tgc, and well Firefox seems to be doing fine, and well my adware is able to gets quick connection from the net, but I'm not gonna use IE if firefox starts being slow